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CLOSE THE !@#$%ING DOOR!!!!
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thomas pars



Joined: 29 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:56 pm    Post subject: CLOSE THE !@#$%ING DOOR!!!! Reply with quote

Put up a sign, asked then told the students in English, then in Korean.
There is literally a blast of cold air that comes in when the door is even
an inch ajar. It's making me mental.
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methdxman



Joined: 14 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah this is immensely annoying, but is not specific to Korea. This happens everywhere.
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BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dare say more often here. Kids have no respect though being told several times.
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jrwhite82



Joined: 22 May 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kids everywhere just don't get it. How many times did your parents ask you if you lived in a barn when you were growing up? Too many to count if you were me.

I taught a few of my students that idiom. I love random teaching opportunities like that.
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BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't have to be told more than a few times before I became anal aout it myself.

Moreso, I teach them to leave things as they were. If the door was closed when you came in, close it again. If it was open, no need.

jrwhite82 wrote:
Kids everywhere just don't get it. How many times did your parents ask you if you lived in a barn when you were growing up? Too many to count if you were me.

I taught a few of my students that idiom. I love random teaching opportunities like that.
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UknowsI



Joined: 16 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same problem. My parents are visiting me for Christmas, and they keep on forgetting to close the door to my bathroom which makes my whole apartment freezing. The kids of the 50ties have no manners :p
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Vix



Joined: 18 Jun 2010
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha just give it 10 mins and they will bitch about being too cold. Then you just need to suggest they close the door Laughing
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southernman



Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe... All the students were using my door as an access way into the classroom this morning (adjoining rooms). My co-teacher couldn't find the key for the main door.

After the first class, when everone was outside snowfighting, I said that the next person who left the door open would die. Then I said the same to my Korean co-teacher in front of our students. She was the worst offender of the lot Laughing

It does irk me, but then again, I've had the heating on high to combat the open door, So at the end of the day it's the school who pays the bill Smile
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jrwhite82



Joined: 22 May 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoholDiver wrote:
I didn't have to be told more than a few times before I became anal aout it myself.

Moreso, I teach them to leave things as they were. If the door was closed when you came in, close it again. If it was open, no need.


My point was that it is not just Korean kids. I can claim from experience that white kids, black kids, Hispanic kids, Vietnamese-American kids, Japanese-American kids and Chinese-American kids all leave the door open.

It is good that you are teaching them to close the door. A lot children (Korean and American) aren't learning these things at home. Which is unfortunate for a number of reasons.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The kids aren't going to close the door when the adults don't bother to either. I've embraced the concept now. Whenever it's biting cold and windy outside, I now find an excuse to visit the office of whoever's been leaving the door to my office ajar. When I leave their office, I leave the door completely open, not even giving that half-hearted effort at closing it that's so common here. Since everyone else in the school goes into a panic if the window is closed and the heater is on, that gives a mighty good breeze through their office. One would think that after a time or two of that treatment, they'd get the message.
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southernman



Joined: 15 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
The kids aren't going to close the door when the adults don't bother to either. I've embraced the concept now. Whenever it's biting cold and windy outside, I now find an excuse to visit the office of whoever's been leaving the door to my office ajar. When I leave their office, I leave the door completely open, not even giving that half-hearted effort at closing it that's so common here. Since everyone else in the school goes into a panic if the window is closed and the heater is on, that gives a mighty good breeze through their office. One would think that after a time or two of that treatment, they'd get the message.


Nice Very Happy I hope it works but it probably just blow by them....
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It killed me last year when I lived on the ground floor of a villa and people insisted on leaving the front door open in the dead of winter. The indoor stairway actually ended up freezing.
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Koreadays



Joined: 20 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about when Korean teachers open all the windows to let fresh air in once we have spent 1 hour heating up the school.
when we say !excuse me, the kids will get cold".
they reply" NO , the children need clean air because its dirty air!


Rolling Eyes
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southernman



Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again

PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreadays wrote:
what about when Korean teachers open all the windows to let fresh air in once we have spent 1 hour heating up the school.
when we say !excuse me, the kids will get cold".
they reply" NO , the children need clean air because its dirty air!


Rolling Eyes


Yup the urban legends/folklore can be extremley silly at times, this is when it comes in handy being an older NET you do have a bit more leeway in being allowed to say your piece (i.e being at least superficially listened to) and on the odd ocassion you're even allowed to do as you suggested.

Thats what I'm liking about winter camp this time around. There is a co-teacher in the classroom as an assistant (Principles policy). My co-teacher who always opens windows in her class has had to put up with a nice warm classroom, no-ones died yet from the pollution, so it's all good Very Happy
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At my last university, it was a never-ending problem. It would let heat in in the warm months, cold in in the cold months and the odd animal (dogs, cats, rats, and snakes) in most any month. There were four sets of double glass swinging doors (outside/inside--two sets each) and they were such that they just locked into the open position when students went through. I locked one side and put signs on it telling students (in both Korean and English) to use the other side. After that, I requisitioned a mechanism that would not let the outer-most door stay open (I think it cost something like 300,000 won). It was a partial success; some people starting propping it open with blocks, magazines, rocks, etc. Whenever I caught them doing so, I read them the riot act, but it was in one ear and out the other. Still, it cut down on the problem.
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