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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia
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 Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:51 am Post subject: UPDATE: Helpful Advice to Those in Korea |
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| Yesterday I went to the US Embassy in Seoul. The FBI did NOT authenticate my CBC like I asked them, too. The embassy put a notarized affadavit onto my CBC, and now I have to mail it off to the DOS. Cost was W60,000. But the embassy WILL NOT put a notarized affadavit on a college degree copy. The lady at the window gave me a 4 page pamphlet talking about how they don't do this anymore...they haven't provided this service since 1983. This was my first time trying to get the degree done. But the good news is, at least they still do CBCs. The degree thing is such a headache for someone already in Korea. I have degree copies that have been notarized and apostilled, but they are more than 6 months old...not sure if that matters...also, 2 different immi officers told my coworker if we are RENEWING at the same school, we don't need this stuff anyway, until we RENEW in 2012. I still plan to turn my stuff in though, as soon as I can. That way, I can have the new stuff turned in before 2012. I also believe that if one renews and then turns this stuff in later, it would be a good idea to ask for a receipt proving you turned in the CBC and degree copy, so that when 2012 rolls around, they don't try to say you didn't turn it in...because somehow I do NOT trust that immi will keep proper records or add your new stuff to your file. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:32 am Post subject: Re: UPDATE: Helpful Advice to Those in Korea |
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| princess wrote: |
| Yesterday I went to the US Embassy in Seoul. The FBI did NOT authenticate my CBC like I asked them, too. The embassy put a notarized affadavit onto my CBC, and now I have to mail it off to the DOS. Cost was W60,000. But the embassy WILL NOT put a notarized affadavit on a college degree copy. The lady at the window gave me a 4 page pamphlet talking about how they don't do this anymore...they haven't provided this service since 1983. This was my first time trying to get the degree done. But the good news is, at least they still do CBCs. The degree thing is such a headache for someone already in Korea. I have degree copies that have been notarized and apostilled, but they are more than 6 months old...not sure if that matters...also, 2 different immi officers told my coworker if we are RENEWING at the same school, we don't need this stuff anyway, until we RENEW in 2012. I still plan to turn my stuff in though, as soon as I can. That way, I can have the new stuff turned in before 2012. I also believe that if one renews and then turns this stuff in later, it would be a good idea to ask for a receipt proving you turned in the CBC and degree copy, so that when 2012 rolls around, they don't try to say you didn't turn it in...because somehow I do NOT trust that immi will keep proper records or add your new stuff to your file. |
This whole situation is crazy. They are not getting good educators or good teachers, or teachers that give a damn, they are getting people who know how to push the right buttons.
College transcripts are the standard for every other employer, look at the paper they are on and the address they are sent from. Reference phone numbers can be tracked down to the office of the referee and the referee can be called multiple times. Once the prospect is hired the referee can then be troubled to send a reference to the employer on official letterhead. What is it with this posting references sent directly to the applicant on email? Insane! nobody else does it that way, nobody. What the hell are the referees who the applicants need a reference from thinking about all this crap? Also some people can talk references into stating the applicant can change water into wine. As for the CRC, the FBI stamp on the CRC's is more impressive than the crappy Department of State apostille that the Koreans demand. For any normal organization it would be enough.
The Elementary School I worked for had a woman that drank herself to death and then the next guy they hired right before me (from NZ) took thier 300,000 won relocation money and fled after 3 days. I stayed for 2 years. Given the way the hiring system works what type of person do you think they are going to be looking to hire again? |
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Alias77
Joined: 28 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:27 am Post subject: Re: UPDATE: Helpful Advice to Those in Korea |
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| princess wrote: |
| I have degree copies that have been notarized and apostilled, but they are more than 6 months old...not sure if that matters... |
No, it doesn't. I've posted several times on here regarding this.
Again - reposted:
An apostille never expires. Once your document is apostilled, it remains so UNTIL you disassemble or destroy the document. This is where you need to pay attention. Apostilles are costly, time consuming, and stupid. However, if you let anyone remove the staples pinning the apostille papers together, the apostille is effectively destroyed. I have a very stern note written in Korean that is attached to my diploma with a paperclip, because the very people who demanded that we get apostilled documents have no idea what they were/are doing and consequently tried to take it apart the first time I ever used it. (Immigration did the same dance of indecision three years ago, demanding this stuff and then backing down soon afterward.) Also, if you hand it to a recruiter or anyone else, make sure you vehemently protest dismantling the document. They do not understand the gravity of the time and cost involved and simply re-stapling it is not sufficient as I will explain.
An apostille is form of authenticating documents agreed by all participanting countries at the Hague Convention of 1961. When you get an apostille, you are paying for registered notary publics (US position title) to vouch for the authenticity of the document. These notary publics, at different levels of government hierarchy, sign and stamp papers which are then pinned together by THEIR staple. You are paying only for their signature and staples, which happen to equate to "verification" in international law although NO research is done to verify anything. The staple is the what makes the document legally authentic as it remains the physical proof of being assembled by a government official.
So, long story short, don't remove the staple. Once your documents are apostilled, protect them and you will never have to do it again. |
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