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caffeinateme



Joined: 02 Jan 2011
Location: CA

PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:08 pm    Post subject: What are my chances as a recent grad, Asian female? Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

Over the past few weeks, I've been diligently reading the posts here on Dave's, as well as doing some online research about teaching in Korea.

I'm about to graduate from university (May 2011) and have been thinking about taking a year off after getting my Bachelor's to get some "real world" experience before applying to graduate school. I am now looking into the possibility of teaching English in Korea.

After coming across many posts about discriminatory hiring practices in Korea, I felt sort of discouraged since I feel it is quite disappointing that my English may be questioned even though I was born and raised in Canada, and have lived here all my life. However, after reading some newer posts, it seems like there has been some positive changes/improvement (especially in the public school sector)?

Anyways, I was wondering what my chances are of obtaining a job through EPIK or GEPIK (I'm leaning towards EPIK for the August 2011 recruitment). I've already started collecting my letters and applied for CRC. Here is some info about me:

- Will be graduating in May 2011 from one of the top 3 universities in Canada
- Major: Honours Sociology
- GPA: 3.7
- Teaching experience: nothing related to ESL teaching; taught piano for 2 years part-time. I'm also an alumnae liaison (teaching assistant) for a summer course at my university
- Certification: currently doing an online 100-hour TESL course, will be done soon
- Reference letters: I asked 3 professors just in case, although I know I only need 2; Professors know me very well (I have research assistantships with all 3 profs)
- Asian-descent (Vietnamese); Canadian citizen
- Decent looking. Lighter skin..? Big eyes.. My great grandfather was a French man, so I've been mistaken as being half-Caucasian before.
- Past employment: bank teller, piano teacher, research assistant, undergraduate journal editor, teaching assistant

1) What are my chances of getting an entry-level public school teaching position?
2) Which is easier to obtain a job? EPIK or GEPIK?
3) Would working with a recruiter improve my chances if this is the first time applying for a job?
4) Has anyone ever worked with Joyce from KorVia? I've been speaking to her for the past few weeks.. Seems nice and responds quick to my questions, but I'm cautious...


Sorry that this post is so long. Please let me know what you think! I really appreciate it.
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tokkibunni8



Joined: 13 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should be fine. My only advice is send your resume out to more than one recruiter. Recruiters are just there to get you connected with the school. What happens afterwards is not their business. So, do your part in this process. Look into the schools, ask if you may contact current or past English teachers there.

Almost forgot, not sure about Epik, but Gepik is cutting a lot of jobs this year.

Good luck.
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hondaicivic



Joined: 01 Jul 2010
Location: Daegu, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: What are my chances as a recent grad, Asian female? Reply with quote

caffeinateme wrote:
Hi everyone,

Over the past few weeks, I've been diligently reading the posts here on Dave's, as well as doing some online research about teaching in Korea.

I'm about to graduate from university (May 2011) and have been thinking about taking a year off after getting my Bachelor's to get some "real world" experience before applying to graduate school. I am now looking into the possibility of teaching English in Korea.

After coming across many posts about discriminatory hiring practices in Korea, I felt sort of discouraged since I feel it is quite disappointing that my English may be questioned even though I was born and raised in Canada, and have lived here all my life. However, after reading some newer posts, it seems like there has been some positive changes/improvement (especially in the public school sector)?

Anyways, I was wondering what my chances are of obtaining a job through EPIK or GEPIK (I'm leaning towards EPIK for the August 2011 recruitment). I've already started collecting my letters and applied for CRC. Here is some info about me:

- Will be graduating in May 2011 from one of the top 3 universities in Canada
- Major: Honours Sociology
- GPA: 3.7
- Teaching experience: nothing related to ESL teaching; taught piano for 2 years part-time. I'm also an alumnae liaison (teaching assistant) for a summer course at my university
- Certification: currently doing an online 100-hour TESL course, will be done soon
- Reference letters: I asked 3 professors just in case, although I know I only need 2; Professors know me very well (I have research assistantships with all 3 profs)
- Asian-descent (Vietnamese); Canadian citizen
- Decent looking. Lighter skin..? Big eyes.. My great grandfather was a French man, so I've been mistaken as being half-Caucasian before.
- Past employment: bank teller, piano teacher, research assistant, undergraduate journal editor, teaching assistant

1) What are my chances of getting an entry-level public school teaching position?
2) Which is easier to obtain a job? EPIK or GEPIK?
3) Would working with a recruiter improve my chances if this is the first time applying for a job?
4) Has anyone ever worked with Joyce from KorVia? I've been speaking to her for the past few weeks.. Seems nice and responds quick to my questions, but I'm cautious...


Sorry that this post is so long. Please let me know what you think! I really appreciate it.



Dont worry, you're a good candidate. (I'm asian as well).
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll be fine BUT

With graduation in May (when do you get the actual parchment?) you will be cutting it very close for the august starts (mid term recruitment).

I would also advise applying with both EPIK and GEPIK. They are independent of each other, have similar packages and you double your chances of landing a job (especially since you will be late in the game - they start recruitment for Aug positions in late March.)

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caffeinateme



Joined: 02 Jan 2011
Location: CA

PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your reply! Well for EPIK, I was told by my recruiter that a notarized letter from my university verifying my graduation date would be good enough to hold me a position before I receive my actual diploma (beginning of June). I've already ordered the letter, which I should be receiving in a few days.

Really hope that's true for GEPIK as well.
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caffeinateme



Joined: 02 Jan 2011
Location: CA

PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tokkibunni8 wrote:
You should be fine. My only advice is send your resume out to more than one recruiter. Recruiters are just there to get you connected with the school. What happens afterwards is not their business. So, do your part in this process. Look into the schools, ask if you may contact current or past English teachers there.

Almost forgot, not sure about Epik, but Gepik is cutting a lot of jobs this year.

Good luck.


Thanks for the suggestion! Smile I think I might ask Footprints as well, have heard lots of good things about them and based where I live (Vancouver).
Do you know if GEPIK and EPIK recruits at the same time?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

caffeinateme wrote:
tokkibunni8 wrote:
You should be fine. My only advice is send your resume out to more than one recruiter. Recruiters are just there to get you connected with the school. What happens afterwards is not their business. So, do your part in this process. Look into the schools, ask if you may contact current or past English teachers there.

Almost forgot, not sure about Epik, but Gepik is cutting a lot of jobs this year.

Good luck.


Thanks for the suggestion! Smile I think I might ask Footprints as well, have heard lots of good things about them and based where I live (Vancouver).
Do you know if GEPIK and EPIK recruits at the same time?


They both recruit at the same time. They just recruit for different areas in Korea.

GEPIK recruits for Gyeonggi province - the province that surrounds Seoul (and the largest public school education office in the country).

EPIK recruits for almost everywhere else (including Seoul city).

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caffeinateme



Joined: 02 Jan 2011
Location: CA

PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
caffeinateme wrote:
tokkibunni8 wrote:
You should be fine. My only advice is send your resume out to more than one recruiter. Recruiters are just there to get you connected with the school. What happens afterwards is not their business. So, do your part in this process. Look into the schools, ask if you may contact current or past English teachers there.

Almost forgot, not sure about Epik, but Gepik is cutting a lot of jobs this year.

Good luck.


Thanks for the suggestion! Smile I think I might ask Footprints as well, have heard lots of good things about them and based where I live (Vancouver).
Do you know if GEPIK and EPIK recruits at the same time?


They both recruit at the same time. They just recruit for different areas in Korea.

GEPIK recruits for Gyeonggi province - the province that surrounds Seoul (and the largest public school education office in the country).

EPIK recruits for almost everywhere else (including Seoul city).

.



Thanks for the info! I guess I have to prepare two document packages now. Gotta get cracking!
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millyfrend



Joined: 29 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:19 pm    Post subject: Re: What are my chances as a recent grad, Asian female? Reply with quote

Sounds like you'll be a great teacher. You just need to apply and make sure you have all your paperwork together. Maybe start on your FBI Background Check and get your degree apostille.

FBI background check takes about 3-5 weeks this time of year. Before it would take 6-12 weeks. So get started on that.


caffeinateme wrote:
Hi everyone,

Over the past few weeks, I've been diligently reading the posts here on Dave's, as well as doing some online research about teaching in Korea.

I'm about to graduate from university (May 2011) and have been thinking about taking a year off after getting my Bachelor's to get some "real world" experience before applying to graduate school. I am now looking into the possibility of teaching English in Korea.

After coming across many posts about discriminatory hiring practices in Korea, I felt sort of discouraged since I feel it is quite disappointing that my English may be questioned even though I was born and raised in Canada, and have lived here all my life. However, after reading some newer posts, it seems like there has been some positive changes/improvement (especially in the public school sector)?

Anyways, I was wondering what my chances are of obtaining a job through EPIK or GEPIK (I'm leaning towards EPIK for the August 2011 recruitment). I've already started collecting my letters and applied for CRC. Here is some info about me:

- Will be graduating in May 2011 from one of the top 3 universities in Canada
- Major: Honours Sociology
- GPA: 3.7
- Teaching experience: nothing related to ESL teaching; taught piano for 2 years part-time. I'm also an alumnae liaison (teaching assistant) for a summer course at my university
- Certification: currently doing an online 100-hour TESL course, will be done soon
- Reference letters: I asked 3 professors just in case, although I know I only need 2; Professors know me very well (I have research assistantships with all 3 profs)
- Asian-descent (Vietnamese); Canadian citizen
- Decent looking. Lighter skin..? Big eyes.. My great grandfather was a French man, so I've been mistaken as being half-Caucasian before.
- Past employment: bank teller, piano teacher, research assistant, undergraduate journal editor, teaching assistant

1) What are my chances of getting an entry-level public school teaching position?
2) Which is easier to obtain a job? EPIK or GEPIK?
3) Would working with a recruiter improve my chances if this is the first time applying for a job?
4) Has anyone ever worked with Joyce from KorVia? I've been speaking to her for the past few weeks.. Seems nice and responds quick to my questions, but I'm cautious...


Sorry that this post is so long. Please let me know what you think! I really appreciate it.
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dyc



Joined: 16 Dec 2010
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha I think we are in the same grad class, caffeinateme! I'm in the same position as you pretty much!
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caffeinateme



Joined: 02 Jan 2011
Location: CA

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dyc wrote:
haha I think we are in the same grad class, caffeinateme! I'm in the same position as you pretty much!


Hooray! Smile are you looking to start in August this year as well?
If so, how far along are you in the application process? All this paperwork is driving me nuts!
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machoman



Joined: 11 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm asian too (chinese/viet) and didn't have a problem with getting in with SMOE. i went to two smoe orientations because i left for a year. the last orientation i went to in 2008 was chock full of asians. mostly korean americans/canadians.

i do have to say i did face discrimination when i tried to apply for hakwons. i would talk to a recruiter, send them everything and they sounded interested. once they got my picture, they told me they only had locations in daegu or some other far away smaller city.
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dyc



Joined: 16 Dec 2010
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

caffeinateme wrote:
dyc wrote:
haha I think we are in the same grad class, caffeinateme! I'm in the same position as you pretty much!


Hooray! Smile are you looking to start in August this year as well?
If so, how far along are you in the application process? All this paperwork is driving me nuts!


Yeah I'm looking to start in August/Sept too, but Joyce from KorVia didn't tell me I could get a notarized letter from UBC! Confused ... so I'm actually still behind you in terms of paperwork. I've got letters from profs/employers but still no CRC or degree. You'll prob beat me to it , as you're already ahead on paperwork and you sound like you have a killer resume.

I might try my hand at getting one of those last-ditch GEPIK/EPIK jobs that pop up in Sept/Oct, or maybe a hagwon if I even get hired due to my Chinese face.

It's so bizarre to see another Socio major from UBC on here wanting to go to Korea!


Also, I heard discrimination is not a problem at all for GEPIK/EPIK/SMOE, but it is definitely apparent for hagwon jobs.
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caffeinateme



Joined: 02 Jan 2011
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dyc wrote:
caffeinateme wrote:
dyc wrote:
haha I think we are in the same grad class, caffeinateme! I'm in the same position as you pretty much!


Hooray! Smile are you looking to start in August this year as well?
If so, how far along are you in the application process? All this paperwork is driving me nuts!


Yeah I'm looking to start in August/Sept too, but Joyce from KorVia didn't tell me I could get a notarized letter from UBC! Confused ... so I'm actually still behind you in terms of paperwork. I've got letters from profs/employers but still no CRC or degree. You'll prob beat me to it , as you're already ahead on paperwork and you sound like you have a killer resume.

I might try my hand at getting one of those last-ditch GEPIK/EPIK jobs that pop up in Sept/Oct, or maybe a hagwon if I even get hired due to my Chinese face.

It's so bizarre to see another Socio major from UBC on here wanting to go to Korea!


Also, I heard discrimination is not a problem at all for GEPIK/EPIK/SMOE, but it is definitely apparent for hagwon jobs.


Wait -- you're from UBC? lol
AHHH I want to private message you but I haven't posted more than 25 times yet (still a newbie). LOLOL!
What's your name?! hahaha maybe we know each other.. weird!!!!
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millyfrend



Joined: 29 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:17 pm    Post subject: Re: What are my chances as a recent grad, Asian female? Reply with quote

Did you end up finding a job yet?

caffeinateme wrote:
Hi everyone,

Over the past few weeks, I've been diligently reading the posts here on Dave's, as well as doing some online research about teaching in Korea.

I'm about to graduate from university (May 2011) and have been thinking about taking a year off after getting my Bachelor's to get some "real world" experience before applying to graduate school. I am now looking into the possibility of teaching English in Korea.

After coming across many posts about discriminatory hiring practices in Korea, I felt sort of discouraged since I feel it is quite disappointing that my English may be questioned even though I was born and raised in Canada, and have lived here all my life. However, after reading some newer posts, it seems like there has been some positive changes/improvement (especially in the public school sector)?

Anyways, I was wondering what my chances are of obtaining a job through EPIK or GEPIK (I'm leaning towards EPIK for the August 2011 recruitment). I've already started collecting my letters and applied for CRC. Here is some info about me:

- Will be graduating in May 2011 from one of the top 3 universities in Canada
- Major: Honours Sociology
- GPA: 3.7
- Teaching experience: nothing related to ESL teaching; taught piano for 2 years part-time. I'm also an alumnae liaison (teaching assistant) for a summer course at my university
- Certification: currently doing an online 100-hour TESL course, will be done soon
- Reference letters: I asked 3 professors just in case, although I know I only need 2; Professors know me very well (I have research assistantships with all 3 profs)
- Asian-descent (Vietnamese); Canadian citizen
- Decent looking. Lighter skin..? Big eyes.. My great grandfather was a French man, so I've been mistaken as being half-Caucasian before.
- Past employment: bank teller, piano teacher, research assistant, undergraduate journal editor, teaching assistant

1) What are my chances of getting an entry-level public school teaching position?
2) Which is easier to obtain a job? EPIK or GEPIK?
3) Would working with a recruiter improve my chances if this is the first time applying for a job?
4) Has anyone ever worked with Joyce from KorVia? I've been speaking to her for the past few weeks.. Seems nice and responds quick to my questions, but I'm cautious...


Sorry that this post is so long. Please let me know what you think! I really appreciate it.
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