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110 Korean Youngsters Held in Philippines
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Los Angeloser



Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:25 pm    Post subject: 110 Korean Youngsters Held in Philippines Reply with quote

Eight staff members were also arrested, charged, and sent to an Immigration detention facility for foreigners. I wonder why, since Koreans/Asians aren't considered as "foreigners" in the Philippines. That must be some "crackdown."
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/01/14/2011011400589.html
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 110 Korean Youngsters Held in Philippines Reply with quote

Los Angeloser wrote:
Eight staff members were also arrested, charged, and sent to an Immigration detention facility for foreigners. I wonder why, since Koreans/Asians aren't considered as "foreigners" in the Philippines. That must be some "crackdown."
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/01/14/2011011400589.html


Perhaps the proper bribes weren't paid. Rolling Eyes
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ttompatz



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Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hagwan boss pissed someone off and learned the hard way that he is not in Korea any more.

The kids will be released and allowed to go home - no big deal. They just need to wait for the consul to make the arrangements.

The bosses will have to kick in a substantial chunk of change to get out.

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Los Angeloser



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
The kids will be released and allowed to go home - no big deal. They just need to wait for the consul to make the arrangements.

The bosses will have to kick in a substantial chunk of change to get out.

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If "no big deal" means 70 of them being deported then okay. Update...
http://asiancorrespondent.com/author/nschwartzman/
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean, "Koreans/Asians aren't considered foreigners" in the Philippines? If someone's not a Philippine citizen, then one is a foreign national in the Philippines. Of course, that's what the Immigration authorities are going by.
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southernman



Joined: 15 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 110 Korean Youngsters Held in Philippines Reply with quote

Los Angeloser wrote:
Eight staff members were also arrested, charged, and sent to an Immigration detention facility for foreigners. I wonder why, since Koreans/Asians aren't considered as "foreigners" in the Philippines. That must be some "crackdown."
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/01/14/2011011400589.html


When I was in the Philipiines in 09 Koreans were certainley considered foreigners. Especially on the little island not far from Boracay that Korean businessmen had bought and were kicking all the locals off to make way for a Koreans' only resort.
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BoholDiver



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Philippines wanted other country's people to invest but don't want the bad that comes with a mass influx of foreign blood.

Koreans are well known for breaking and bending rules if they see themselves fit to do so. Running the langauge school may be harmless and a mostly honest business, but Philippine authorities didn't see it so.

Mr. Lee will probably pack up and open a hagwon back here in Korea where he can get away with stuff like this.
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sojusucks



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just another ripoff hagwon that thought it could operate that way overseas.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/01/113_79691.html

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01-14-2011 16:12

Philippines agrees to return passports to detained Korean students

The Philippines has agreed to allow about 110 young South Korean students, held in the Southeast Asian nation for attending English language camps without study permits, to leave the country within this month, an official said Friday.

The students, mostly elementary school pupils, had their passports seized by Filipino immigration authorities in a Jan. 7-12 crackdown for taking English-language study courses without "special study permits."

Fourteen Koreans involved in running the camps have been taken into custody for investigation.

On Friday, the Philippines government agreed to give the passports back to the students soon so that they could return home at any time by the end of January, a ministry official said. South Korea stressed in talks with the Philippines that the students had no intention of violating the law and that they are also victims, he said.

The students went to the Philippines to take English study courses during winter vacation on programs organized by the camp operators. But camp officials failed to pay about 150,000 won per student in special study permits to the Philippines government.

The Philippines plans to move forward with the investigations of the 14 camp operators, the official said.



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madoka



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That'll teach those criminals not to study without a license! Laughing
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
That'll teach those criminals not to study without a license! Laughing


The hogwan broke the law and the kids, and their families, are paying the price. I know it would actually be bigger news if a hagwon didn't break the law, but don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This sounds like nothing more than someone not paying the "visa tax" and them wanting to get one in for the Korean government not adding them to the E2 visa countries.
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
This sounds like nothing more than someone not paying the "visa tax" and them wanting to get one in for the Korean government not adding them to the E2 visa countries.


That's what happened with the students. Let's see if the hagwon broke some bigger laws.
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sojusucks



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More information
http://www.koreaherald.com/national/Detail.jsp?newsMLId=20110114000766
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good link, sojusucks. By the way, is anyone at all surprised by this bit?
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Industry insiders said such detentions are nothing new in the Philippines since many English language centers operated by Koreans violate local laws to save money.
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stevieg4ever



Joined: 11 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
Good link, sojusucks. By the way, is anyone at all surprised by this bit?
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Industry insiders said such detentions are nothing new in the Philippines since many English language centers operated by Koreans violate local laws to save money.


No, not in the slightest bit surprised. They can join their compatriots in the UK (and other countries as well I am sure) whose restaurants give preferential treatment to Korean patrons in the form of: free rice, free side dishes, bigger portions and discounts upon showing their Korean ID cards.

The only thing that is surprising is that a Korean news outlet chose to report the article.
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