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Chopstick Skill
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How's your skill with chopsticks?
Excellent- Bowl of peas in 30 secs.
53%
 53%  [ 23 ]
Good- Only have trouble with noodle soup.
30%
 30%  [ 13 ]
Fair- I can finish my meal.
6%
 6%  [ 3 ]
Beginner- I drop things, but refuse a fork.
4%
 4%  [ 2 ]
Poor- Where's the fork?
4%
 4%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 43

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phaedrus



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 2:51 am    Post subject: Chopstick Skill Reply with quote

The reason I ask is that my skill with chopsticks is better than a lot of Korean's.

I am not bragging, but I wonder if you notice this with yourself; and how good are you with chopsticks?
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been using chopsticks since I was 11. Motor skills were good enough to learn how to do it properly and I've been doing it years.
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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I figure foreigners like me are better with chopsticks cause they usually learn as an adult rather than as a toddler. Much in the same way I learned to hold a pencil wrong and have held it that way ever since, Korean kids learn the wrong way.
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phaedrus



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shawner88 wrote:
I figure foreigners like me are better with chopsticks cause they usually learn as an adult rather than as a toddler. Much in the same way I learned to hold a pencil wrong and have held it that way ever since, Korean kids learn the wrong way.


I think this is the answer. The way some of the Korean teachers that I work with hold their chopsticks is funny. They hold them together with no pivot point and hope they pick up their food. Although it doesn't seem effective, they often eat quite neatly. I prefer Yangban style.

I learned with Chinese chopsticks. They are bigger and wooden usually, and when I first tried out the metal jobbies they were a bit squirmy.

I take chopsticks for granted now. I remember when I came the people I came with didn't fully catch on and they left after a year. I feel odd with a fork sometimes.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Years ago I was taken with the (probably spurious) story that Confucius, a vegetarian, promoted the use of chopsticks at the table over utensils that hinted at butchery.

I used them customarily for years before I came here but the slender stainless steel units were a bit of an adjustment. I'm a convert now -- the wooden jobs feel clunky -- but I havent mastered the reverse cutting motion that Koreans do so deftly.

By the way, is there a trick to consistently breaking apart wooden take-out sticks reasonably evenly?
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ryleeys



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually brought my own chopsticks with me from America. I am far more accustomed to the Japanese style than the Korean or Chinese styles, though I am getting a little better with both.

I also have difficulty understanding the technique Koreans use with holding the chopsticks together. I've tried it, and it doesn't work. When I hold my chopsticks, the bottom rests in the crook at the top of my thumb, same as everyone else. But then the "top" stick, I hold very far away, a good 2-3 centimeters from the other, to maximize my ability to pinch. The greater angle of contact at the point also allows me to apply more pressure.
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SuperHero



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been using chopsticks since I was 13.

The real test is how fast you can eat a bowl of rice one grain at a time.
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katydid



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I came to Korea 2 years ago, I had *no* idea how to use chopsticks. You know what is a great teacher? Hunger.
I soon learned how to pick up everything, including those slippery pieces of seaweed.
Now Korean people tell me I use chopsticks very well. Wink
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Homer
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus people..this is hilarious!

You are discussing ability with a basic eating utensil and then patting each other on the back for being able to use it well Exclamation Laughing

Then, some of you proceed to enter into a pissing contest by saying you are just "better" then the locals at eating with basic utensils...whoo hooo Laughing

Whats next Question
I can see it now: " Hey did you know I can use a spoon better then (insert group of your choice)" Laughing
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katydid



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, myself, was writing my post with a sense of irony, and wanted to share my admittedly pretty pathetic tale of how I *only* leanred to use chopsticks just two years ago. Any other attempts in the past were pure comedy.
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ryleeys



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anytime you have to do something new, it's going to be of interest. For many people, using a "simple utensil" is a new part of life to deal with here, and therefore of interest.

If you're not interested, spend the two minutes you used to type that you're not interest doing something useful... like looking up NASA photos!
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found it interesting to notice that different countries use chopsticks differently. In Korea they often use them like a knife to divide the food before eating it. I did not see this in Taiwan. When I did it I think it looked unusual there. They usually just picked up the bigger piece and bit off some and put the other amount back in the dish.

They are rarely used in Thailand. I think only one or two (local) dishes there use them. They also have a certain etiquette though, with the spoon in the right for eating, and the fork in the left as a helper, cutter of food, not the eater.

I could be wrong. Please say if it's so. Wink
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phaedrus



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
Then, some of you proceed to enter into a pissing contest by saying you are just "better" then the locals at eating with basic utensils...whoo hooo

Whats next
I can see it now: " Hey did you know I can use a spoon better then (insert group of your choice)"


Many people who come here can't use chopsticks well when they arrive.

Many Korean people I see can't use chopsticks as well as they could.

If you don't notice the small details in life crawl back under your rock.

Seriously, at work I have conversations with Korean teachers about chopstick skill, and they don't use them well. Not unwell to the point of dropping food, but not perfect either.

Chopsticks are more difficult to use than forks or spoons.

All Koreans can use a fork, but not all Westerners can use chopsticks. Sure it doesn't take too long to catch on, but it does take time.
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is true. I had never used them before arrival in Korea! Utensils are used differently all over the world. It is kind of interesting. And some meals are hands only! YUM Razz
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
Jesus people..this is hilarious!

You are discussing ability with a basic eating utensil and then patting each other on the back for being able to use it well Exclamation Laughing


this would be hilarious if we were all koreans. but we're not. do you know how many non-asian people can weild a pair? if your wife cooked a meal for your mother and father, would they prefer chopsticks, or a fork and spoon? chopsticks are not basic to a westerner. frankly, i do find some interest in chopstick discussions, myself.

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my first exposure to chopsticks was when i was in adelaide. i ordered a bowl of meat soup from a chinese restaurant, and all of the meat was still on the bone. i refused to use anything else to help me get the meat off the bone, and picked up skills pretty quickly. the reverse cutting motion is a new one, though, and i can only do it on a good day.

being back in america now, it's weird when i want to eat something that requires chopsticks, and can't find any around easily like back in korea. they're not hard to find if i go look for them, but i no longer have a drawer with 10 or so pairs inside...
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