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wiganer
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As long as one is opened across the road from my house then thats my teatime sorted out for life!  |
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Radius
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:29 am Post subject: |
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| I have one right across the street from me, too. People commented that there was loads of MSG in there. They knew because they're allergic to it. I know my stomach sometimes gets upset from it, but I always thought it was from too much grease since they double fry their wings. |
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Hindsight
Joined: 02 Feb 2009
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Anything is possible, but I doubt it will succeed in NYC if they sell it like they do in Korea. KyoChon Chicken tastes good, but it is vastly overpriced and full of bones. Americans do not like chicken cut into little pieces, including chicken backs and necks all over the place.
Bringing KyoChon Chicken to America is like bringing coals to Newcastle. KyoChon Chicken is nothing but a ripoff of General Tso's Chicken, but with bones. And General Tso's Chicken is the most popular dish at Chinese restaurants in America. You can typically get a ton of it on rice and brocolli, with more sauce, boneless, for about $6, a lot cheaper than KyoChon Chicken.
The first time I had KyoChon chicken at a friend's home in Korea I said it was delicious and it tasted like General Tso's Chicken. The last time I had it was at one of their outlets. The sauce came from a factory in a big plastic tub. They were painting it on the fried chicken with a paint brush that had been sitting around in a kitchen filled with flies swarming around. I told them to skip the sauce. The bare chicken turned out to have no flavor of its own -- it's all in this canned sauce.
General Tso's Chicken was created by a Chinese-American chef, Peng Chang-kuei, in Manhattan as a way to one-up Colonel Sanders' Kentucky Fried Chicken (Colonel vs. General, get it?). Recipes for General Tso's Chicken are available online. Apparently that's where Kyo Chon Chicken got their recipe from. But with General Tso's Chicken, the chefs make the sauce at the restaurant fresh. It's not that hard if you have the ingredients; sadly, you can't find peanut oil in Korea, which is fundamental to Chinese cooking.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/04/magazine/04food.t.html?pagewanted=all
You don't have to walk more than about five blocks to find General Tso's chicken in New York City, and probably just about all New Yorkers have eaten it. I don't think they will be very impressed with KyoChun Chicken.
But I'm sure Koreans visiting New York will just love it. Everyone knows Koreans don't like greasy American food because, as Steelrails put it: "
the dominant colors of your meal are likely to be yellow or brown.... Even Americanized ethnic foods come in the yellow-brown category: Chinese food, Mexican Food, Pizza...." and now.... Korean KyoChon Chicken!!!!
Yellow-brown American General Tso's chicken: Yyyccchhhkkk! Very disgusting!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/barbarajean/3357379300/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nicolesusanne/1512078583/
Yellow-brown Korean KyoChon Chicken! Mmmmmmm! Very delicious!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pikakakaka/4763186070/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pikakakaka/4825589611/ |
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farfromhome
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:07 am Post subject: |
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| theres a kyochun in k-town (los angeles) near the wiltern. its been there for a few years, along with a paris baguette a few blocks away. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Hindsight wrote: |
Anything is possible, but I doubt it will succeed in NYC if they sell it like they do in Korea. KyoChon Chicken tastes good, but it is vastly overpriced and full of bones. Americans do not like chicken cut into little pieces, including chicken backs and necks all over the place.
Bringing KyoChon Chicken to America is like bringing coals to Newcastle. KyoChon Chicken is nothing but a ripoff of General Tso's Chicken, but with bones. And General Tso's Chicken is the most popular dish at Chinese restaurants in America. You can typically get a ton of it on rice and brocolli, with more sauce, boneless, for about $6, a lot cheaper than KyoChon Chicken.
The first time I had KyoChon chicken at a friend's home in Korea I said it was delicious and it tasted like General Tso's Chicken. The last time I had it was at one of their outlets. The sauce came from a factory in a big plastic tub. They were painting it on the fried chicken with a paint brush that had been sitting around in a kitchen filled with flies swarming around. I told them to skip the sauce. The bare chicken turned out to have no flavor of its own -- it's all in this canned sauce.
General Tso's Chicken was created by a Chinese-American chef, Peng Chang-kuei, in Manhattan as a way to one-up Colonel Sanders' Kentucky Fried Chicken (Colonel vs. General, get it?). Recipes for General Tso's Chicken are available online. Apparently that's where Kyo Chon Chicken got their recipe from. But with General Tso's Chicken, the chefs make the sauce at the restaurant fresh. It's not that hard if you have the ingredients; sadly, you can't find peanut oil in Korea, which is fundamental to Chinese cooking.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/04/magazine/04food.t.html?pagewanted=all
You don't have to walk more than about five blocks to find General Tso's chicken in New York City, and probably just about all New Yorkers have eaten it. I don't think they will be very impressed with KyoChun Chicken.
But I'm sure Koreans visiting New York will just love it. Everyone knows Koreans don't like greasy American food because, as Steelrails put it: "
the dominant colors of your meal are likely to be yellow or brown.... Even Americanized ethnic foods come in the yellow-brown category: Chinese food, Mexican Food, Pizza...." and now.... Korean KyoChon Chicken!!!!
Yellow-brown American General Tso's chicken: Yyyccchhhkkk! Very disgusting!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/barbarajean/3357379300/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nicolesusanne/1512078583/
Yellow-brown Korean KyoChon Chicken! Mmmmmmm! Very delicious!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pikakakaka/4763186070/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pikakakaka/4825589611/ |
Thanks for taking me out of context. Regardless I don't care much for Kyochon or General Tso's.
And Kyochon chicken is not the ripoff of General Tso's. You're talking about the sauce which is served at every Korean fried chicken place. You can get Kyochon chicken with Kanjang sauce or with no sauce at all, thereby making it not a rip-off. But I'll take what you said in context and agree that what you meant is true. |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| The last couple times I tried Kyochon it was like charcoal. Give me Nene chicken in the US, but without the mark-up that always follows foreign companies. |
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northway
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| Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| My understanding is that it's mostly there for Koreans/Korean Americans. |
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methdxman
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| Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| My understanding is that it's mostly there for Koreans/Korean Americans. |
Don't try to inject logic into any thread on Dave's.
Of course people on this forum think that Koreans are trying to beat KFC or Popeye's or something, nevermind that most of the KyoChon joints are in Koreatowns (32nd in New York and in Koreatown in LA). |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Radius wrote: |
| I have one right across the street from me, too. People commented that there was loads of MSG in there. They knew because they're allergic to it. I know my stomach sometimes gets upset from it, but I always thought it was from too much grease since they double fry their wings. |
I honestly think that the American aversion to MSG is just a form of racism against Asian people. Nobody is "allergic to MSG" any more than they are allergic to salt. Scientists have done studies with placebo and proven the MSG allergy to be false. It's just a myth that people buy into because they have a paranoid distrust of yellow people and think that they are putting horrible things in their takeout food. It comes from the same realm as the saying "Do you know why there are no stray cats in Chinatown?" It's pure racist paranoia.
Your upset stomach probably IS from too much grease. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| methdxman wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| My understanding is that it's mostly there for Koreans/Korean Americans. |
Don't try to inject logic into any thread on Dave's.
Of course people on this forum think that Koreans are trying to beat KFC or Popeye's or something, nevermind that most of the KyoChon joints are in Koreatowns (32nd in New York and in Koreatown in LA). |
I think my favorite was a Times article written when Kyochon opened in New York where they quoted a Korean girl complaining about the absence of Cass. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:45 am Post subject: |
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| Radius wrote: |
| I have one right across the street from me, too. People commented that there was loads of MSG in there. They knew because they're allergic to it. I know my stomach sometimes gets upset from it, but I always thought it was from too much grease since they double fry their wings. |
I honestly think that the American aversion to MSG is just a form of racism against Asian people. Nobody is "allergic to MSG" any more than they are allergic to salt. Scientists have done studies with placebo and proven the MSG allergy to be false. It's just a myth that people buy into because they have a paranoid distrust of yellow people and think that they are putting horrible things in their takeout food. It comes from the same realm as the saying "Do you know why there are no stray cats in Chinatown?" It's pure racist paranoia.
Your upset stomach probably IS from too much grease. |
Absolutely not, my upset stomach is due to my Irritable Bowel Syndrome, not the MooShu and Egg Rolls + 2 40ozs of Steel Reserve I drank. |
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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| Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| Ahhh...good ol' MSG....the Devil's Nutrasweet. |
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AmericanBornKorean
Joined: 08 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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KyoChon and BonChon used to be very popular here in LA. It's died down quite a bit. It was a big favorite among yelpers for a bit when the "KFC" (korean fried chicken) craze was going on. But it seems it was nothing more than a passing fad.
I heard the same about NY. They both have a KyoChon and a BonChon. |
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balzor
Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Chicken Sal-Sal is the shizz |
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