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Drew10
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 Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| So does anyone get offended when they whip out the ol' ARC and right there on top it says "waygookin" in Hangul? |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:25 am Post subject: Re: Anyone else have a problem with "foreigner"? |
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| chungbukdo wrote: |
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| This is just my opinion and I don't expect everyone to agree with me but every time I hear or read the words 외국인 or foreigner |
That word does not mean foreigner. Maybe literally, if you break down the meaning of each character, but not in practice. It means "white person" in practice.
If anyone disagrees, think of the last time a Korean called a Chinese or a Japanese person a waegukin rather than a junggukin. When Koreans say "Waegukins can't eat spicy food" they are not talking about Thais and Chinese people, they are talking about white people. Do Koreans call people who have lived in America all of their life yet happen to have Korean ancestry "waegukin"?
Or, one could argue that it means "non-Asian raced person", rather than white person. |
With a name like mine, I guess it's only appropriate I chime in. Ha ha. Actually, a white person is 백인. But anyone who seems or looks foriegn is weigookin. Anytime someone seems surprised to see me and says: "weigookin", I say no and call myself "hangookin" and ask them if they are "weigookin". Sometimes, I ask if they are phillipine - in. They really love that. It's kind of fun to screw with people. Guess it's how I cope. Why get pissed? You can't fight 50 million people.... |
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Menino80
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:41 am Post subject: Re: Anyone else have a problem with "foreigner"? |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
Well I'd rather be called "foreigner" then "drunken, skirt chasing immigrant"
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That was a useless post.
I think it's telling that outisde of Korea, they still refer to non-Koreans as 외국인. In this case, the Koreans are "outside country", but it doesn't matter. You either have the 민족 or you don't. |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Hard to believe this idiotic argument and thread continues.
You ARE a foreigner. You may (and will) be called a foreigner. Why? because you are one.
the word doesn't elicist any reaction in any country outside of say US, Canada, (and potentially UK and Australia) because in those countries..
everyone is a de facto RECENT "foreigner", hence the stupid "offense" some people take to it.
You will stand in a line at any immigration booth around the world in a line that's labeled "FOREIGNER".
do you know why? because you're a foreigner that's why.
now go find something else to whine about. |
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Menino80
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| Vagabundo wrote: |
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everyone is a de facto RECENT "foreigner", hence the stupid "offense" some people take to it.
You will stand in a line at any immigration booth around the world in a line that's labeled "FOREIGNER".
do you know why? because you're a foreigner that's why.
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People who come from countries that have actually had immigration know what the history of that word is, and what has happened to their societies because of nativism, ethnocentrism, and racism.
If you want to keep your head in the sand and play legalistic semantic games, have fun. I'm sure you can keep it going for a few more pages. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| Menino80 wrote: |
| People who come from countries that have actually had immigration know what the history of that word is, and what has happened to their societies because of nativism, ethnocentrism, and racism. |
When translated the closest word, and most suitable word, is foreigner but in the end it's a different language, history of the word is different, anyways continue on with this 'debate'... |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:26 am Post subject: |
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| Amusing thread...let it carry on for pure comedy reasons. |
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Menino80
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| Menino80 wrote: |
| People who come from countries that have actually had immigration know what the history of that word is, and what has happened to their societies because of nativism, ethnocentrism, and racism. |
When translated the closest word, and most suitable word, is foreigner but in the end it's a different language, history of the word is different, anyways continue on with this 'debate'... |
Then why say it when outside of Korea? The hanja indicates otherwise.
| cutie boy wrote: |
Amusing thread...let it carry on for pure comedy reasons.
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Well aren't you just adorable? |
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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| Vagabundo wrote: |
Hard to believe this idiotic argument and thread continues.
You ARE a foreigner. You may (and will) be called a foreigner. Why? because you are one. |
Actually, as some have pointed out, 외국인 doesn't mean "foreigner" it means "non-Korean". I'm not particularly offended, but it's the same as if I were to refer to people as either "white" or "non-white". The inherent racism of that should be pretty obvious.
I think "non-Korean" has the potential to be even more offensive though. I -could- call someone "non-white" and still believe that they are 100% American (my countryman, that is). I doubt that you could both be 외국인 and Korean, even if you were a born and raised citizen of Korea. |
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Menino80
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| comm wrote: |
| Vagabundo wrote: |
Hard to believe this idiotic argument and thread continues.
You ARE a foreigner. You may (and will) be called a foreigner. Why? because you are one. |
Actually, as some have pointed out, 외국인 doesn't mean "foreigner" it means "non-Korean". I'm not particularly offended, but it's the same as if I were to refer to people as either "white" or "non-white". The inherent racism of that should be pretty obvious.
I think "non-Korean" has the potential to be even more offensive though. I -could- call someone "non-white" and still believe that they are 100% American (my countryman, that is). I doubt that you could both be 외국인 and Korean, even if you were a born and raised citizen of Korea. |
This. I don't really have a problem with the term itself, it's a loan word that the Chinese use as well. It's how and when it's used, to say nothing of the pointing and the "Waegugin I-Da" BS that they use when you are sitting there looking them straight in the face. |
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lakeshow
Joined: 02 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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so waegookin is inherently racist...  now i've heard it all. Any korean who uses the word is racist. got it. |
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| lakeshow wrote: |
| so waegookin is inherently racist... now i've heard it all. Any korean who uses the word is racist. got it. |
You're apparently new here. There is a certain contingent of people here who are, frankly, just looking for an excuse. The slightest difference from the way things are done back home means that everyone here is a xenophobic racist out to get them and no amount of logic would convince them otherwise.
The way some people act around here I wouldn't be surprised if they don't spend their nights crouched in the corner with a baseball bat sweating in fear until the sun comes up again. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| Menino80 wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
| Menino80 wrote: |
| People who come from countries that have actually had immigration know what the history of that word is, and what has happened to their societies because of nativism, ethnocentrism, and racism. |
When translated the closest word, and most suitable word, is foreigner but in the end it's a different language, history of the word is different, anyways continue on with this 'debate'... |
Then why say it when outside of Korea? The hanja indicates otherwise.
| cutie boy wrote: |
Amusing thread...let it carry on for pure comedy reasons.
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Well aren't you just adorable? |
Awww you changed my name to quote me in an attempt to insult....how fitting when compared to what you posted here.
Carry on with the good fight and please keep posting, this is hilarious! |
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Koharski
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Joined: 20 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| Mr. Temporary Ban If You Do It Again wrote: |
| cutie boy wrote: |
Amusing thread...let it carry on for pure comedy reasons.
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Well aren't you just adorable? |
Awww you changed my name to quote me in an attempt to insult....how fitting when compared to what you posted here.
Carry on with the good fight and please keep posting, this is hilarious! |
See? I can do that too!!!!
Koharski |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| Well done. |
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