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New Rule: E-2 visa holders can add employers w/o permission?
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canadian Saja wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
If you work for a public school, are you allowed to teach for free outside of the school, say as a volunteer?


You're not a prisoner, you can do pretty much whatever you like in your free time.


No you can't. Public school teachers are actually prohibited by law or regulation from taking a second teaching job. Whether that includes volunteering would be a question for the ministry of justice.
This has been brought up before and someone actually provided a link/background info on this at one point.

chungbukdo wrote:
crossmr wrote:

There was already a significant amount of people competing for that 3 hours, adding a few more will do nothing to impact the wage offered.

Adding a greater supply of labour produces a tendency of falling nominal wage rates.


Did you just get through Fisher Price's "My first Supply and Demand workbook"?
It's not a linear thing. It's a curve, and at saturation further increases do not have significant impacts on wages. Even when we went from a teachers market to an employers market there was no real impact on wages that anyone reported, so what evidence do you have that a tiny increase in saturation would suddenly have this massive shift on wages that never happened before?


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Menino80



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
chungbukdo wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:


How will this reduce labour scarcity?


If someone works 5 hours per day, then he takes on 3 additional hours per day, is there more or less labour now?


In this market, it does not change a damn thing.

That teacher working that extra 3 hours will be a drop in the ocean.



Not if all of them do this. Look at what privates pay. There is a huge demand for non-visa jobs, the job sites just don't want to deal with the Immi paperwork. Labor will be able to chase prices just like capital does and doesn't have to fear deportation and the fixed costs associated with repatriating or doing a visa run and gettign new documents.
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ontheway



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What this new change does:

1) It allows you to change employers by going to work at your new job and reporting the change to Immigration afterward, within two weeks.

The documents you need to make the change: letter of release, apostilled CBC on file and apostilled diploma copy on file and other documents for the new job from you and from the new employer are not changed. But, you can report the new job to Immigration after you begin working instead of before.

In those cases where you needed a letter of release, you still do. In those cases where you didn't need a letter of release, you still don't.

2) It allows you to notify Immigration about any additional job after you begin working there. (It was already no longer necessary for a school to add a second workplace for you if you work for the same employer in a different legally registered location.)

However, it does not change the rules for working a 2nd job. You still need permission from your visa sponsor.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chungbukdo wrote:
crossmr wrote:

There was already a significant amount of people competing for that 3 hours, adding a few more will do nothing to impact the wage offered.

Adding a greater supply of labour produces a tendency of falling nominal wage rates.

And the thing is, there are not many people competing for 3 hour part time jobs. Just F-series visa people and people doing illegal work. People aren't being flown to Korea and housed to do 3 hour per day jobs.


Thats where you are wrong.

Many E2s currently teach at a second location and have been doing so for years. This modification to the visa rules is not akin to opening the floodgates. All iy does is simply the process but you still need permission to get that second job, just like before.

Your theory would be right if they made a MAJOR change that went something like:

1- Allow E2 visas to be issued to anyone with a BA from anywhere as long as they prove they can speak English well.

That would flood the market with cheaper options and hence drive wages down.

2- Allow E2 visa holders to teach private lessons legally. That would drive the prices of these lessons down.

3- Allow E2 via holders to work for as many schools as they want with no restrictions

None of these options are in effect and the modifications outlined earlier in this thread are not even close to these.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I still haven't worked out the "Letter of Release" part

Does it mean you don't need a letter of release anymore - if you are "not dismissed or resign before your contract is finished" - Basically does it mean that if you finish your contract and wish to take another job - you DON'T need a release letter - and you don't need to go on a visa run to Japan - you can just change it over (within 15 days) to the new job at immigration?

Can you just finish one job and notify immigration that you are starting a new job without needing a letter of release?
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