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I tried to teach the word 'inevitable' to my friend.....
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UKsimon



Joined: 01 Nov 2009
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:22 pm    Post subject: I tried to teach the word 'inevitable' to my friend..... Reply with quote

by using the sentence

'You will inevitably become an ajumma'

That backfired and she stormed off and won't talk to me.

Is this really that offensive or is she (as I guess) just an overreacting princess?
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hondaicivic



Joined: 01 Jul 2010
Location: Daegu, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:02 pm    Post subject: Re: I tried to teach the word 'inevitable' to my friend..... Reply with quote

UKsimon wrote:
by using the sentence

'You will inevitably become an ajumma'

That backfired and she stormed off and won't talk to me.

Is this really that offensive or is she (as I guess) just an overreacting princess?


both....
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You made the biggest mistake when talking to a young Korean woman. Unless the lady you are talking to is clearly an ajuma, and in no way attracted to, don't use the word.
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happiness



Joined: 04 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

age-ism is a weapon. kids learn it very young. its good to be a kid, or an old person, but nothing in between. that said, i love all the balck hair dying, esp when the ajushii is balding, has a combover , but his hair is jet black.

there is no 40 is the new 20 here. no young girl wants to be seen as anything but a sweet young innocent thing, so she can get a good handsome man who will please her parents.

i am 38 now, im in good shape, dress well, and have alot of cool talents what impress my firends back home. Here, Im just "ajushii" teacher to all the viriginal 24 year old teachers in the hagwon. noone here can escape it. its a wild card to pull out to insult/attack/jab at someone when youre at a loss.

that said, i know they envy the hell out of our freedom in the US.


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sadguy



Joined: 13 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

she sounds dumb and overly sensitive. you're teaching her a word and i'm guess you were just joking.
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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so she can get a good handsome man who will pleasure her parents.


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Jake_Kim



Joined: 27 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could've simply said, 'Everyone inevitably dies at some point.'

Relating Ajumma-ness to any young woman in her face sounds more like picking a fight, not even teasing.
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a good woman would have laughed at that one and maybe told you that you'll inevitably become a gross old foreign English teacher.
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sadguy



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jake_Kim wrote:
You could've simply said, 'Everyone inevitably dies at some point.'

Relating Ajumma-ness to any young woman in her face sounds more like picking a fight, not even teasing.


i'm always joking to my gf about her becoming an ajumma. i ask her "how does it feel that you'll have that hairstyle one day?" as i point to an ajumma perm.

i even joke like that with one of my co teachers who is slowly becoming an ajumma. her son is leaving for uni and i said "well now that your son is leaving, it's time to embrace being an ajumma." she laughs.

that girl sounds like a superficial prude.
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cragesmure



Joined: 23 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:43 am    Post subject: Re: I tried to teach the word 'inevitable' to my friend..... Reply with quote

UKsimon wrote:
by using the sentence

'You will inevitably become an ajumma'

That backfired and she stormed off and won't talk to me.

Is this really that offensive or is she (as I guess) just an overreacting princess?

It's a touch offensive. Maybe try "fated/doomed/inescapably bound to become an ajumma". I've always found the word "inevitably" a little offensive.
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:59 am    Post subject: Re: I tried to teach the word 'inevitable' to my friend..... Reply with quote

hondaicivic wrote:
UKsimon wrote:
by using the sentence

'You will inevitably become an ajumma'

That backfired and she stormed off and won't talk to me.

Is this really that offensive or is she (as I guess) just an overreacting princess?


both....


The mid-sized passenger vehicle is correct. Your comment was insensitive and she is overreacting. Just another typical male-female error in communication.
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would never make an age related joke around a woman unless she is too young or too old to take offense. Or my sisters..but that is just when we are being mutually cruel. Women in general don't like jokes about their age or how well they are aging. Not rocket science.
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UKsimon



Joined: 01 Nov 2009
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She normally has such a great sense of humour.

I'll think twice about mocking her future image in the future.
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young Koreans feels same as we would about the closed minded shell shocked looking old people sitting on the side of a freezing cold street selling garlic or hunched over with aching back working red pepper into a red tub of gimchee wearing pink rubber gloves and cooking, "tinny," tasting war era soup in a huge aluminum pot. I wouldn't want to be compared to them or told I was going to be like that. It's inevitable that you insulted her by teaching, "inevitable," using the most dreaded idea in a young Korean's concious awareness. "Adjumma," carries many connoctations of this not so pretty manual laboring bitter old lady with a round permed hairdo who never knew joy and happiness with the ability to step outside this stereotype to just be themselves.
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candypants



Joined: 11 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a sensitive women,you'd better admit that you were joking Razz
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