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Kimbop
Joined: 31 Mar 2008
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| mises wrote: |
^ It is a 5% drop.
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I reckon the Con's strength is the weakness of the Liberal leader. Harper does not deserve the wide support he has. |
He doesn't really have "wide support"; it's only 35%. But I agree that Ignatieff is weak. But what other alternative do we have, Mises? If we want:
- to shrink the size of our welfare-proliferated underclass
- to diminish unsustainable healthcare, indian act, and pension benefits
- lower taxes, more personal responsibility, fewer govt coffee drinkers
- diminish anchor babies, lower immigration; ban tamil tiger boats
- less free healthcare for illegal aliens and Canadians of convenience
then who do we vote for? Layton, Lizbeth May, ignatieff; purveyors of all the above? What it comes down to is a Conservative 50 Billion deficit vs a liberal 51 billion deficit for this fiscal year. I'll take the lesser of two evils, and hopefully get some of my radical rightwing fantasies granted along the way.
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and the elderly come over just to pillage healthcare anyway. In Australia I think it's a lot harder to do this because there is a 2 yr wait to get benefits after getting permanent residency. Canada is just another socialist dystopia. |
Agreed. Unfortunately. And also unfortunately, Harper is our only alternative to reversing the trudeaupian socialist multiculti nightmare. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| Kimbop wrote: |
Agreed. Unfortunately. And also unfortunately, Harper is our only alternative to reversing the trudeaupian socialist multiculti nightmare. |
I'd like to think like Yoda ("no, there is another") but you're probably right. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| Democracy from everywhere is dead. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand this. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:26 am Post subject: |
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If I ever hear a Korean complain about this, I will chew their ear off. In a country that doesn't have an invitation visa system like Canada does, they have no right to talk. Or any other country who doesn't offer it. The invitation visa system is a gift.
People who were counting on it to get their sick/old mother and father over to Canada are ticked off because they didn't save for their own future. No such thing as a free lunch.
13 years is a worst case scenario. 7 years is average before, I heard. If slowing the leeches down makes other people faster, then I am for it. Especially people who are going to Canada on their own means, not just b/c they spit out a baby 30 years ago and their kids were able to make it.
| recessiontime wrote: |
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and the elderly come over just to pillage healthcare anyway. In Australia I think it's a lot harder to do this because there is a 2 yr wait to get benefits after getting permanent residency. Canada is just another socialist dystopia. |
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Wildbore
Joined: 17 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:03 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| I agreed with the Potash decision and the recent changes to the immigration system (I'll take what I can get). If the Cons prevent the TMX merger I'll consider voting for them. I'll still prolly vote Green or some other wasted ballot. |
The Potash decision was purely political. If Canadians weren't a bunch of incompetent knee-jerkers they would realize that blocking economic activity is a stupid long-term strategy. Harper just played to the ignorant masses on that move.
I agree with you on tightening up immigration. A good political move and good for Canadian society.
A vote for a Greens (LOL) is a vote stolen from the Liberals. So if you want to do that, it's fine and dandy with me.
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| I reckon the Con's strength is the weakness of the Liberal leader. Harper does not deserve the wide support he has. |
The entire Liberal Party is weak. They're own policy conference supported privatization and deregulation of the heathcare sector. Their useless candidates can't even win by-elections anymore. Iggy made one of the worst mistakes in politics, he allowed himself to be branded by his opponents.
But you ignore the fact that Harper is a master tactician, he earns a lot of his support himself. This week Harper made another joke out of them. He used the Mr. Chen case, the Toronto shopowner who was persecuted by the Ontario Liberal government for arresting a thief, to usher out a new bill which would strengthen citizens arrest/self defense laws. Basically, he took the momentum from the NDP/Libs on that issue by coming out with a better bill.
Also, news came out that criminals costs Canadians 100 billion per year in damage. Basically seals the deal for justifying the prisons, tougher laws.
Iggy should just hang himself already. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| The Potash decision was purely political. If Canadians weren't a bunch of incompetent knee-jerkers they would realize that blocking economic activity is a stupid long-term strategy. Harper just played to the ignorant masses on that move. |
Potash is not going to stay in the ground. Economic activity will continue. The question is if Canada's resources should be owned by multi-nats. Potash should be a crown corp run for the benefit of all people living in Sask, and not the evil international bankster cabal.
There is nothing conservative about revolutionary, internationalist neo-liberalism. |
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Hugo85
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| They're all incompetents who will avoid real issues. It doesn't matter which uncharismatic [Mod Edit] runs this county lol. |
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riverboy
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Potash is not going to stay in the ground. Economic activity will continue. The question is if Canada's resources should be owned by multi-nats. Potash should be a crown corp run for the benefit of all people living in Sask, and not the evil international bankster cabal.
There is nothing conservative about revolutionary, internationalist neo-liberalism. |
Mises. Here's a question I have for you. Having followed your posts for a few years now, I've watched you evolve to a degree, but you've always had a fair grasp on the economic situation. I tend to agree with you opinions more than I disagree.
Are or were any of Canada's many crown corporations profitable? Like Petro-Can for example. |
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Hugo85
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:29 am Post subject: |
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Potash is not going to stay in the ground. Economic activity will continue. The question is if Canada's resources should be owned by multi-nats. Potash should be a crown corp run for the benefit of all people living in Sask, and not the evil international bankster cabal.
There is nothing conservative about revolutionary, internationalist neo-liberalism. |
Mises. Here's a question I have for you. Having followed your posts for a few years now, I've watched you evolve to a degree, but you've always had a fair grasp on the economic situation. I tend to agree with you opinions more than I disagree.
Are or were any of Canada's many crown corporations profitable? Like Petro-Can for example. |
Not sure about Canadian ones, but I do know loto-quebec, hydro-quebec and quebec's alcohol society are highly profitable. Though, I could seriously do without the later taking a 50% cut on wine bottles. In fact, I think hydro-quebec is one of the best thing in quebec. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Riverboy, I blew a couple weekends researching that very question about a month ago and have a good chunk of financial data. I'll summarize it here when I have a bit more time. The short answer is that some CCorps are well run and others not. The BC Ferry is probably the worst (that I've found). Anyways, the reason Potash should be a CCorp is that the firms with sufficient capital to buy it are so powerful that they would come to totally dominate the Sask gov, similar to how energy firms have colonized AB's government and banksters in the USA. Additionally, CCorps can provide a subsidy though their losses (like the post office). This makes business more affordable.
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http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/116641733.html
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OTTAWA -- In a fundraising letter stamped "URGENT," the Harper Conservatives are appealing for money to help finance an election they say is imminent.
The letter from top Tory fundraiser Sen. Irving Gerstein, obtained by iPolitics.ca, says the party needs another $243,900 for an election "we will likely face in the next few weeks."
The sum, Gerstein says, will "pay for two weeks of campaign preparedness action before an election is called." |
Back to he polls? |
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Kimbop
Joined: 31 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:27 am Post subject: |
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http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/116641733.html
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OTTAWA -- In a fundraising letter stamped "URGENT," the Harper Conservatives are appealing for money to help finance an election they say is imminent.
The letter from top Tory fundraiser Sen. Irving Gerstein, obtained by iPolitics.ca, says the party needs another $243,900 for an election "we will likely face in the next few weeks."
The sum, Gerstein says, will "pay for two weeks of campaign preparedness action before an election is called." |
Back to he polls? |
They've been sending these silly letters for years. We will not see an election in 2011. You'll see. |
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Wildbore
Joined: 17 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:15 am Post subject: |
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| The Potash decision was purely political. If Canadians weren't a bunch of incompetent knee-jerkers they would realize that blocking economic activity is a stupid long-term strategy. Harper just played to the ignorant masses on that move. |
Potash is not going to stay in the ground. Economic activity will continue. The question is if Canada's resources should be owned by multi-nats. Potash should be a crown corp run for the benefit of all people living in Sask, and not the evil international bankster cabal.
There is nothing conservative about revolutionary, internationalist neo-liberalism. |
I know Potash isn't going to stay in the ground. A company like BHP woudn't have made the offer otherwise.
Potash Corp is already a multi-nat. Most shareholders are foreign and it trades on many exchanges. It started in Saskatchewan, is headquartered there, and has most of its operations there, but other than that it is owned mostly by foreigners.
Actually, Tommy Douglas raped Saskatchewan. It was the worst place to do business in Canada for half a century because of all the nationalizations going on. That province is more than happy to put it's legacy of incompetent Crown Corporations behind them and invite private investors to bring wealth, jobs, and productivity into the province.
Potash Corp as it stands is evil. It formed a cartel with Mosiac and Agrium to fix potash prices, aka. gouge people. Yea sure, the government gets more money from royalties, but they end up mostly wasting it. That money would be better off anywhere but government hands.
I would be happy for the BHP takeover to come and tear up that cartel, and allow the prices to be set by the market. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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Coming from Saskatchewan, you are partially right. Sask. was the joke of Canada and Alberta left us in the dust.
Now look at it. Sask. is the fastest growing province and one of the brightest economic futures in Canada. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.canada.com/news/Kenney+dismisses+Trudeau+apology+barbaric+honour+killings/4442464/story.html
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Immigration and Multiculturalism Minister Jason Kenney is dismissing Liberal MP Justin Trudeau's apology for slamming the federal government's usage of the word "barbaric" to describe honour killings.
On Monday, the government updated its Discover Canada guide, a pamphlet issued to newcomers preparing for citizenship tests, so that it includes an emphasis on Canada's democratic principles, recognition that gay and lesbian couples have access to marriage and that forced marriage is not tolerated in this country.
A clause also states that "Canada's openness and generosity do not extend to barbaric cultural practices that tolerate spousal abuse, 'honour killings,' female genital mutilation, forced marriage or other gender-based violence."
During an interview with radio station Newstalk 1010, Trudeau, the Liberal immigration critic, said he was "uncomfortable" with the government labelling honour killings as "barbaric," a remark that sparked a series of attacks from Conservative MPs.
"You could say it's absolutely unacceptable as a phrase," said Trudeau, adding that the word could have the effect of making newcomers "defensive."
"Perhaps I got tangled in semantic weeds in my comments, particularly in view of the Conservatives' cynicism on these issues. I want to make clear that I think the acts described are heinous, barbaric acts that are totally unacceptable in our society," he wrote in an email to Postmedia News.
"I retract my comments and apologize if they've been interpreted by any one as dismissing or diminishing the serious and appalling nature of honour killings and other gender-based violence."
He added: "My expectation � given their vehemence against me � now that the Conservatives take this issue more seriously than their record indicates, is that they will immediately bring forward a comprehensive national strategy to combat violence against women as the House of Commons has been calling for since 2008."
Kenney, who unveiled the guide's changes at a citizenship ceremony in Vancouver, called Trudeau's comments an "ironic half-apology" that doesn't "cut it." |
How in the hell did Trudeau become the Liberal immigration critic? Good on Kenney for pushing back.
The problem won't go away. Honor killings are a part of "Canadian" life now. |
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PardonTheInterruption
Joined: 02 Mar 2011
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:01 am Post subject: |
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I'm just tired of seeing the ads on TV...
"Iggy...he ain't in it for you, Canada!"
"Steven Harper - We've been through a lot these past few years, oh, but we still be chuggin' along, lets show three or four shots of the new fighter jets please, because since we have air superiority overwhere we go we need new jets, the old ones didn't even have cup holders, love my family we're gonna go build a snowman now, and then I'll be back to solve the budget in time to have another cup of coffee from my Beatle's mug and play piano with my son."
Seriously gettin' old while I'm trying to watch basketball. |
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