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angma



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:26 am    Post subject: Removed Reply with quote

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dyc



Joined: 16 Dec 2010
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:39 am    Post subject: Re: Her family hits my sweet angelic student -- I can do not Reply with quote

angma wrote:
I got a lot of responses to my last post about cheating. This is a GREAT place for an outlet. I should use it more often.

One of my most brilliant students is a very sweet and shy little girl. I have trouble getting her to speak, but she speaks more often now -- just in a very tiny voice that is difficult to hear. After about 2 years, I think I am just finally earning her trust. She would never play with me, but within the last 3 months she has been very playful. I think I now understand WHY she it was so hard to earn her trust and affection.

She came to school a couple of weeks ago and was speaking to me closely (I have to get close to hear her) when I noticed a decent sized gash on the inside of her lower lip. I interrogated her about it. "Did you fall down?" ...no. "Did another student hit you?" ...no.

Well, the students all got very curious (this happened during class) and started asking questions in Korean. I let them run with it. It turns out her grandmother hit her.

Being a westerner (US), my values are not the same as most Koreans. I pretty much know that relaying info to my boss would be futile. I've almost "let it go", but, still, every time I think about it, my heart aches. What would you do? (let's pretend you're not willing to risk the job you have held for almost seven years -- your position as well...)

Is "just letting it go" the answer? I can't see another feasible option.


Well you don't know for sure that her grandmother is abusive. It could've been an accident, or just discipline that went a bit too far (i.e. grandmother meant to grab her or give her a little smack and the girl struggled which caused the gash on the lip).

But even if the girl was being physically abused, i don't think there's much you can do.
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thegadfly



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would talk to your boss about your concerns -- if there is a chance that the girl IS being abused by someone in her family, you should do what you can about it.

That being said, what you describe here displays a HUGE amount of presumption on your part -- you are basing your entire allegation of abuse on a single mark, and from that you extrapolate years of physical abuse. If I were the parent of that child, I would be very offended by your gall and ego.

Even the title of your post is sensationalistic and misleading. It is clear to me that you are simply trolling...or else, you have a talent for expressing yourself in the least tactful, most offensive way possible in any situation.
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jrwhite82



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Document it. Report it to your supervisor. Document that you reported it. Move on.
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thegadfly



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

angma wrote:
thegadfly wrote:
I would talk to your boss about your concerns -- if there is a chance that the girl IS being abused by someone in her family, you should do what you can about it.

That being said, what you describe here displays a HUGE amount of presumption on your part -- you are basing your entire allegation of abuse on a single mark, and from that you extrapolate years of physical abuse. If I were the parent of that child, I would be very offended by your gall and ego.

Even the title of your post is sensationalistic and misleading. It is clear to me that you are simply trolling...or else, you have a talent for expressing yourself in the least tactful, most offensive way possible in any situation.


I think you are presuming an awful lot about my post. I don't really see how your can infer so much from so little information. Years of abuse??? Where do you get that??? The only thing I am assuming is that the child is telling the truth.

Yes... I am being a pessimist here, assuming the worst. That's the point. However, there is a difference between being pessimistic and just plain negativity. I think your comment was just plain negative. The comment you made on the other thread seemed reasonable. This was not. Find a punching bag.


I got it from your original post -- "After about 2 years, I think I am just finally earning her trust. She would never play with me, but within the last 3 months she has been very playful. I think I now understand WHY she it was so hard to earn her trust and affection. "

If that wasn't meant to imply your belief that her trust issues stem from physical abuse that she has received at the hands of her "abusive family," then you really ARE bad at expressing what you mean.

The title of your post is "Her family hits my sweet angelic student -- I can do nothing." Again, if you weren't implying that more than one person hit her more than one time, and that you have tried and failed to stop it, then you really need to work on your communication skills. Words have meanings, and if you aren't sure of what you are saying, you might take a few minutes to think about it first.

I don't particularly trust your judgment on things, or the conclusions you draw -- but as I said before, you should report it to your boss. To do nothing when you suspect abuse is unconscionable, and it would be better to do something and be mistaken than not to do anything, for fear of being wrong.
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ontheway



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go ahead and report it, verbally, to your boss, in a concerned but gentle way. Then,