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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:56 am Post subject: |
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| tiger fancini wrote: |
| At the end of the day, it's their country. They can make whatever laws and policies they like. Foreigners have a choice. Most of the time, if foreigners obey the law they can have a pretty decent life in Korea. |
I liked Korea and was treated decently untill I left Korea, then the crap started. Possibly because they didn't like the fact that I left. Really I will never really know. |
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murmanjake
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Well, if you need stats on deportation ask immigration because no one here can provide you with an accurate number.
The only conclusions you can rely on is that foreign teachers DO get deported for various reasons including: work visa violations, fraud, drug offenses.
How many a year? Hard to say. |
I'm confused then, Patrick,
From your challenge to Skyblue, I thought you were actually in possession of this information.
It makes me think you find it suspect to ask these kinds of questions.
What gives? |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| tottenhamtaipeinick wrote: |
Korea sounds tightass!!!! I could tell the Australian Government right now at least 5 Koreans who actually run companies (not just individuals) illegally in Australia. And that�s not to mention 90% of Chinese who will never pay tax to this bloody Country. I am sure that goes for nearly any Western Country with 'Asians'.
I think if I got caught in Korea doing anything wrong I would make sure Koreans and their money sucking ways in Australia went down out of pure revenge with their illegal importing companies, cleaning companies, restaurants, airport pick up services and ofcourse the biggest one PROSTITUTION services ( 1 of every 3 prostitutes is a Korean on student VISAs and no tax and yes Korean girls have a terrible image here because of the amount of bloody prostitutes working here), oh and the latest one I found out about is my flatmates VISA's are illegally obtained through another Korean service offered.
I would make sure they got rolled over and internationally the Country looked like low-life scum......
But that would never happen cause I don't care.... So why does Korea give a crap about a little bit of extra cash.
So can someone tell me is Korea really persistent on Foreigners staying in line? |
Are you going to teach English with that capitalization? |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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goniff
Joined: 31 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:35 am Post subject: |
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when i went to apply for my australian visa the consulate official asked me if i had a criminal record
my reply was "no. why? do i need one?' |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| murmanjake wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Well, if you need stats on deportation ask immigration because no one here can provide you with an accurate number.
The only conclusions you can rely on is that foreign teachers DO get deported for various reasons including: work visa violations, fraud, drug offenses.
How many a year? Hard to say. |
I'm confused then, Patrick,
From your challenge to Skyblue, I thought you were actually in possession of this information.
It makes me think you find it suspect to ask these kinds of questions.
What gives? |
I am just curious about why someone would want to know how many foreigners are deported in a year. What use would that information be to a person. This is not a loaded question, I am genuinely curious here. I was not challenging skyblue by the way, I was only asking a question. |
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MacLean
Joined: 14 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| crescent wrote: |
I personally knew a woman who was deported. I suppose for an indirectly valid reason, but the reason I'm posting this is because of the absolute ignorance on the part of the authorities involved.
Her boyfriend returned from a sextour in Thailand and gave her HIV. This was years before the mandatory health checks, and it came out in a checkup she initiated on her own.
The doctor didn't say anything to her.
She found out the horrible news when a police officer and immigration agent came to her hogwan. In the same breath, she was told she had HIV, and had to leave the country immediately. They escorted her to her apartment, waited while she packed, and took her to the airport.
She paid the flight costs. |
Man, that's just evil. The doctor didn't have the decency to take her aside and gently break the news to her that she had a life-threatening disease. Rather, he calls the police and immigration. What a scumbag. Don't doctors hear take some type of hippocratic oath?
Just unbelievable. But nothing about this country surprises me anymore. |
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Skyblue
Joined: 02 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| I am just curious about why someone would want to know how many foreigners are deported in a year. What use would that information be to a person. |
Let me put your mind at ease, Pat. I know that you're probably worried that a fellow eslcafe.com poster might be breaking Korean law and teaching on the side. Well, I share your concerns. So let me state once and for all, categorically, that I have never and would never subvert the excellent system that the Korean government has put in place to protect people from freelance language teachers. My question was one of idle curiosity, though I am now beginning to think that it was dangerous, in that the answer might give people the impression that they can break the law with impunity. That was never my intent, and just let me say that I hope no one, ever, thinks they can tutor others without their government and employer's permission. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| Skyblue wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| I am just curious about why someone would want to know how many foreigners are deported in a year. What use would that information be to a person. |
Let me put your mind at ease, Pat. I know that you're probably worried that a fellow eslcafe.com poster might be breaking Korean law and teaching on the side. Well, I share your concerns. So let me state once and for all, categorically, that I have never and would never subvert the excellent system that the Korean government has put in place to protect people from freelance language teachers. My question was one of idle curiosity, though I am now beginning to think that it was dangerous, in that the answer might give people the impression that they can break the law with impunity. That was never my intent, and just let me say that I hope no one, ever, thinks they can tutor others without their government and employer's permission. |
I still don't see how that would be too useful. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:54 am Post subject: |
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| Skyblue wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| I am just curious about why someone would want to know how many foreigners are deported in a year. What use would that information be to a person. |
Let me put your mind at ease, Pat. I know that you're probably worried that a fellow eslcafe.com poster might be breaking Korean law and teaching on the side. Well, I share your concerns. So let me state once and for all, categorically, that I have never and would never subvert the excellent system that the Korean government has put in place to protect people from freelance language teachers. My question was one of idle curiosity, though I am now beginning to think that it was dangerous, in that the answer might give people the impression that they can break the law with impunity. That was never my intent, and just let me say that I hope no one, ever, thinks they can tutor others without their government and employer's permission. |
Good grief, talk about projecting skyblue. I do not give a rats butt what you do in Korea.  I also could not care less if E2s teach private lessons or how many do this. why would I?
Putting aside all the sarcasm in your reply, my question was genuine and had no ill intent. I never beleived tha Korean "system" is excellent. It certainly has its flaws.
On a more concrete front, teaching private lessons on an E2 is illegal. Many foreigners teach these lessons anyway. One can only hope they are providing quality lessons to their students. As for the legality of it, its up to each person to weigh the risks and then make their choice. If the choice to teach illegal private lessons is made, then be ready (no matter what the odds are) of accepting the consequences if you get busted. These being: fine, potential deportation.
End of story. |
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NovaKart
Joined: 18 Nov 2009
Location: Iraq
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Man, that's just evil. The doctor didn't have the decency to take her aside and gently break the news to her that she had a life-threatening disease. Rather, he calls the police and immigration. What a scumbag. Don't doctors hear take some type of hippocratic oath?
Just unbelievable. But nothing about this country surprises me anymore. |
I was going to say the same thing. Any doctor who doesn't have the decency to at least tell someone she has HIV before alerting the police has no soul and doesn't deserve to practice the profession. |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
I also could not care less if E2s teach private lessons or how many do this. why would I?
On a more concrete front, teaching private lessons on an E2 is illegal. Many foreigners teach these lessons anyway. One can only hope they are providing quality lessons to their students. As for the legality of it, its up to each person to weigh the risks and then make their choice. If the choice to teach illegal private lessons is made, then be ready (no matter what the odds are) of accepting the consequences if you get busted. These being: fine, potential deportation.
End of story. |
I could care less as well. Stories about fellow foreigners telling authorities about another doing privates is so chicken sh*t. I mind my own business. I like having my free time without additional teaching, even if its more money but I don't judge or condemn others who do. I wouldn't
blame a guy who b*tchslapped someone for ratting him about it either. You've got way too much time on your hands if you do sh*t like that for no reason...and there isn't any good reason.
The funny thing is I hear people discuss privates openly and willingly in any circle of people I've been in. I'm sure there are cases of people being deported for it but I've never personally heard of a case. The foreigners that do tattle are, as I said, chickensh*t and they can hide under the 'its illegal and it gives us all a bad name when NETs break the law cr@p'.
Personally, the only scenario I can see where I would get involved and I'd like to think I'd be man enough to confront the person is if the person is harming someone else like molesting, domestic violence or repeated violence, etc. I may not even say anything about drug dealing although I may give a pass to someone who would.
I heard a story about a guy who lied about another foreign guy because he 'stole' the other guys girlfriend. That is chickensh*t as well.
As far as girlfriends/boyfrieinds, korean or foriegn, I recall a radio show host giving advice on dating once and he said NEVER admit to doing anything illegal to anyone you're dating. You break their heart they will look for any opportunity fair or foul to bite you in the a$$.
As far as stories, I did hear about a guy before I came here that was deported for having a fake degree. The new laws caught up with him when he changed schools. The 'school' was added to some list of fake schools that the government checked. |
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Slowmotion
Joined: 15 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Why does this not surprise me. I have a moral dilemma too; my hairdresser who is going to emigrate to Australia wants to go early and start earning better money than she is in Korea; maybe I should do my Australian ajosshi good deed and alert immigration.
Have a clear conscience, tell the authorities about Koreans taking advantage in Australia. |
You're going to rat on your hairdresser? You've got to be kidding me.
Please tell me you have better things to do in your life. Mind your own business and stop being such a douche. No one likes a tattle tell. |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Skyblue
Joined: 02 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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^ I think it is your patriotic duty to make sure that economic migrant with hair-clippers never boards the plane and abuses the generous social services or parasitically feeds off the economy of your home country.
Ratting out fellow foreigners is another matter. Embrace in-group / out-group double standards. When in Rome, etc. |
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