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working title



Joined: 20 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:44 am    Post subject: Is severance taxed? Reply with quote

Does anyone know if your end-of-year severance is taxable?

I'll be receiving mine in August for a three-year stint (three years worth of severance) in a p.s. Two of those years when the severance was earned, I was tax exempt.

My question is, will I be taxed on all three years? (this year I began paying taxes)
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Hotpants



Joined: 27 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes - taxable.

Can't believe you held out for 3 yrs without severance, though. I hope you get what's due. Not sure how it will work, since severance should be calcuated as the average of your final 3 months' gross of salary.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
in a p.s


I can't believe it was 3 years at the same school (at least that is what it sounds like to me).
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hindsight:

Teachers should collect their severance annually during their first two years if they are tax exempt during those years.

By collecting your severance for the first two years during your third year you will be taxed on the whole amount, and at a higher rate.
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working title



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the above poster, I guess hindsight is always 20/20. In the end I should have checked into this and gotten my severance beforehand.

I work for SMOE and according to their regs, I needed to wait until I left SMOE to get my severance. Three years with SMOE. And yes, I was tax exempt for the first two years.

Alright, there's really nothing I can do about it now except figure out my tax bracket this year. Also, I need to start saving receipts for deductions.

Thanks for the info guys, I hope this thread serves as a warning for future SMOErs.

Edit: I just checked my tax bracket with and without the extra two years worth of severance. The increased amount I will receive (2.3 million x 3 years as opposed to 2.0 + 2.2 + 2.3) and the increased amount of paid taxes is about the same (W400,000) So waiting to get my severance now or getting it before, in the end it's all basically a wash.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Count yourself lucky. I have a friend who changed schools last year and asked for her severance. They said, no, severance is only for people who are leaving Korea. You don'�t get anything.
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working title



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for SMOE, when you leave SMOE, they will pay you your severance x amount of years of service.

So, if I left SMOE for a new job with EPIK in Busan, they would have to pay me severance.

Pension, on the other hand, is a different matter.
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OculisOrbis



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
Count yourself lucky. I have a friend who changed schools last year and asked for her severance. They said, no, severance is only for people who are leaving Korea. You don'�t get anything.


100% BS. Severance is due to anyone leaving their job that has worked for at least one year. Korean or foreign. (or if the employee requests it while still employed, after at least one year, it can be paid out., but the the one year minimum requirement kicks in after every every payout.)

If ur friend was at a public school and just changed schools within the same district (POE), then they could hold it until ur friend leaves their employment --- but does not have to leave korea.
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Njord



Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are staying at the same school and wish to get your severance after one year, you need to fill out a Korean document which translates to "application for early severance payment." The accountant at your school should be able to help with this. However, there are pros and cons to taking the severance early:

pros:
Money is in your pocket
Avoid taxes if you are in your first two years

cons:
Miss out on increase in salary (severance calculated on your last salary)
Do not get partial-year severance if you have to quit before another full year
Some schools might give you a hard time

Really depends on your personal situation.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OculisOrbis wrote:
naturegirl321 wrote:
Count yourself lucky. I have a friend who changed schools last year and asked for her severance. They said, no, severance is only for people who are leaving Korea. You don'�t get anything.


100% BS. Severance is due to anyone leaving their job that has worked for at least one year. Korean or foreign. (or if the employee requests it while still employed, after at least one year, it can be paid out., but the the one year minimum requirement kicks in after every every payout.)

If ur friend was at a public school and just changed schools within the same district (POE), then they could hold it until ur friend leaves their employment --- but does not have to leave korea.


Yes, I agree. She was at a private, big name, hagwon. She didn't go to the Labour board though.
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deadhead



Joined: 25 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will receive my severance pay next month for working 1 year at my hagwon. I have lived in Korea for 3 years, but I forget how it works.

Will I have to pay taxes on my severance pay? For example: If my severance pay is 1,000,000, will I receive 1,000,000, or will I receive less?

I'm sorry if this answer is already somewhere in here, but if it is, I don't understand Embarassed At least I didn't make another post! Very Happy
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Who's Your Daddy?



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get your severance every year end, even if you're continuing the hogwon. I've never had a problem insisting on that.
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cj1976



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in my 5th year with SMOE and my first year was tax-exempt. Oh well. I wonder how much I will actually get after the taxman takes his pound of flesh.
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Who's Your Daddy?



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've lost interest income. Also you've risked an increase in tax rates, and non-payment.
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r122925



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
Get your severance every year end, even if you're continuing the hogwon. I've never had a problem insisting on that.

You've lost interest income. Also you've risked an increase in tax rates, and non-payment.


Not too surprised that you have gotten hagwon owners to agree to that, because it almost always works out in their benefit. As far as the law is concerned I don't think they have to do it.

The income idea is ridiculous if you are getting a pay raise of any kind when renewing your contract. You would need an unbelievably high interest rate to make up for an extra 100,000 a month even. (remember severance is paid at the highest pay rate)

Also, if you quit before the end of your second (or third, fourth, fifth, etc) contract you can get a pro-rated severance payment that you won't get if you take the payment yearly. For example, if you work there for a year and 6 months you can get 1.5 months pay when you leave. If you take the severance pay after the first year you'll get nothing for the final six months.

Increase in taxes? I suppose it's a risk, but not a very big one in my opinion. Tax rates don't fluctuate that wildly.

The only reason I would ever consider taking the severance pay yearly is if I didn't trust the hagwon boss to pay it. And if that's the case, why would you be renewing the contract in the first place? At public schools/universities I would say it's quite safe..
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