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Korean Google: Semi-Censorship & Foreigner Discriminatio

 
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rchristo10



Joined: 14 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:54 pm    Post subject: Korean Google: Semi-Censorship & Foreigner Discriminatio Reply with quote

Ok, this morning I was using Korean Google to search for information related to Charles Epp's book "Making Rights Real," when I noticed by my adult permissions were not on (i.e. I had to prove that I'm 19 years old or above). This is not something that I'm unfamiliar with so I pressed 인증 to prove my age. Now usually this simply asks that I log into my google account, which has my stated birth information. However, the new system (perhaps promoted by the Internet "crack down") requires that I also put in my 주민번호, which is something I've never seen on google before.

As you can imagine. It doesn't work for foreigners.

Now I'm not trying to start a stir, but I'm actually comfortable looking for several things in Korean and using the Korean version of Google. This privilege has clearly been stripped and I can only imagine what will happen now that my school/ research period has begun anew.

I've since (7 this morning) moved to using google.com instead of google.co.kr, but I'm still extremely pissed off.

Anyone else notice this absurdity!? Mad
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Louis VI



Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom

PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Google is no longer your friend.
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jonpurdy



Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan

PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've been here for a reasonable amount of time you'll realize that Korean website (including those made by foreign companies sometimes) are garbage. Requiring your 주민번호, failing to authenticate a foreign one, etc. The amount of time I've wasted trying to get Korean sites working has got to be multiple percent of all my time in Korea.

For Google, google.com/ncr is the no country redirect.
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Slowmotion



Joined: 15 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea's websites in general seem like one of the worst in the world amongst developed countries.

-A billion active X's programs to install
-Websites that don't even work in Firefox, Google Chrome, Opera etc
-Websites that won't work on smart phones
-Don't follow web standards
-Stupid registration system
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tatertot



Joined: 21 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Google is a US company, I don't think you can attribute this to (intentional) discrimination. For Google to operate in Korea, they need to follow Korean laws. Most foreigners using Google in Korea would not choose to use google.co.kr, so Google probably didn't think to implement user verification for non-Koreans. Chalk it up as an inconvenience, and use google.com instead.
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Canonite



Joined: 01 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you still use Google.com or other, non-Korean, varieties of it? (I as because in Canada, for example, you can't use Google.com - unless there's a way around it I don't know - ...you type in Google.com and it automatically re-routes you to Google.ca).
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonpurdy answered your question. Canon.

if you check the lower right side where it says 'Google.com in English' it takes you to google.com/ncr
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Menino80



Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Location: Hodor?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the failure of the korean sites to recognize foreign 민주번호 is most certainly discrimination. it's a matter of changing one number. a sh a sh. a sh sh shu shu 5000 dollar SUIT! COME on.
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Canonite



Joined: 01 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote:
jonpurdy answered your question. Canon.

if you check the lower right side where it says 'Google.com in English' it takes you to google.com/ncr


oops...thanks...missed that somehow...good to know Smile
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Jake_Kim



Joined: 27 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which website is it?

Verification with KN ID number is required mostly when you're buying something, or accessing 'adult' materials, or trying to write something on certain online boards/forum. The book in question hardly seems to meet the criteria for a verification alert.
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twilczynski



Joined: 22 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case of google.co.kr you can use your name (written like this: SURNAMEGIVENNAME) and your registration number.
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rchristo10



Joined: 14 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

twilczynski wrote:
In case of google.co.kr you can use your name (written like this: SURNAMEGIVENNAME) and your registration number.


No can do. My registered name has 20 letters and two spaces.

I've talked to the powers that be about this several times and they refuse to put me in the books with a shorter name (i.e. minus the middle one). So I'm basically screwed when it comes to identification verification unless the site allows for more than 22 letters.

In Korea, fat chance. ^^
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this pisses you off, you know the bank security program you need to install? It's malware and has a script for blocking sites

I've got a really sensitive virus & spyware program. I paid 2 grand for my comp so I put that thing behind hoops of fire. The programst keeps telling me the blocklist attached to nprotect (Bank account access program) is conflicting with the script on the webpages or is trying to change information.
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murmanjake



Joined: 21 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate all that crapware u gotta install to access a bank acct here.

really grinds my gears...
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