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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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 Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:41 pm Post subject: China and its mouth piece are a problem. |
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I listen to CCTV and its anchor people and all I can say is that if they are the rep. for China then China should wake up.
I mean when you ask questions that need a negative answer, or you shut down a person when he never gave you the answer you wanted, then the problem is you.
Listen, I am not an American. Therefore I am not subsequently biased towards them.
But seriously, if CCTV is designed to present China's face to the world then they better start trying to learn what the world can accept.
Is western media bias, ? The answer is yes. Is is so blantant that it turns off viewers? The answer is no.
Does that mean Chinese news blantant racism and hatred is ok for english speakers?
Well, considering that I had to turn off the tele rather than listen to another comment about Japan and how thier nuclear problem is designed to hide the truth from the Japanese and US people than the answer is no.
I mean can't the Communists really understand that the propoganda they grew up with is not culturally generic?
You dont need to turn a problem into a �ts a conspiracy and its all their fault". |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| A tiny rant. Having an anti-China bias is a faux-paux today. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Actually I have had a problem with China since 1994 when I read how an Australian Chinese businessman was sentenced to 14 yrs imprisonment.
When the Australian Government complained that they weren't notified that he had even been arrested. The Chinese Govt. stated that all ethnic Chinese are the property of the Chinese Government, and therefore they can arrest them whatever thier citizenship is.
I am not jumping on the band wagon, I was there before the band wagon.
I am just waking people up to the point that in the 1960s, the arguments and actions that they took against the Soviet Union are exactly the same actions that China is taking against the South Koreans in 2011.
China has not changed as much as we want to believe they had. |
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ZIFA
Joined: 23 Feb 2011
Location: Dici che il fiume..Trova la via al mare
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:06 am Post subject: |
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| A nation of spoiled little princes who grow up with no siblings to contradict them. Mummy serves as a footservant and there is only ever one perspective to be heard on the radio. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:42 am Post subject: |
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| Summer Wine wrote: |
| China has not changed as much as we want to believe they had. |
I still don't understand what the problem is. Some South Koreans are praising China over their own country. They're still small but it's getting bigger.
For that matter, my Chinese professor from my old university praised the Chinese government for funding the Australian economy. |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:35 am Post subject: Re: China and its mouth piece are a problem. |
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| Summer Wine wrote: |
Listen, I am not an American. Therefore I am not subsequently biased towards them.
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What is that supposed to mean? |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:01 am Post subject: Re: China and its mouth piece are a problem. |
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| Sector7G wrote: |
| Summer Wine wrote: |
Listen, I am not an American. Therefore I am not subsequently biased towards them.
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What is that supposed to mean? |
I guess it means we Americans quiver at the surging might of China . . . or something. |
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jinks
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island
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cyui
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Nuclear Weapons :shock: |
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southern boy
Joined: 29 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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I'd be pissed if the nz govt bending over for that one. I can tell you that increasing number of illegal mainland Chinese immigrants are on the rise over here. If their country has it so good, why there are 10000s of them fleeing overseas every single year. Go eat shit and die Communist. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Sector G wrote:
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| What is that supposed to mean? |
What it means is that on many international relations blogs or webpages, if you question anything about China actions or thoughts, you are usually accused of being an american and an agressor against China.
If they bother to notice that you don't need to be an american to disagree with Chinese Hegemonic tendancies, then they call you an American lackey.
I was just getting it out of the way, that I am not an American, so if anyone was going to disagree with my points, they shouldn't bother arguing that its because I am an American.
Actually the best report I have read about Chinese imperialism was written by a Russian about the Chinese attacks and claims against the Soviet Union in the 1960s. Thier use of fishermen or farmers who would then pull out iron bars and attack the Border guards seems so much what is happening in the east sea against the Korean Coast Guard.
After a while the Chinese used military force to back up the farmers or even military personnel they sent into Soviet territory dressed as fishermen or farmers. All the time stating that the territory was disputed, the Soviets learnt that you couldn't discuss removing people from the disputed areas as the only areas that the Chinese considered disputed were theres, and so when China debated non militarizing disputed territory they always meant area that isn't theirs.
Maybe the South Koreans should send fishermen into Chinese areas acting like the Chinese fishermen and then state that to reduce the conflict, no fishermen should enter the others controlled waters. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Summer Wine wrote: |
Actually I have had a problem with China since 1994 when I read how an Australian Chinese businessman was sentenced to 14 yrs imprisonment.
When the Australian Government complained that they weren't notified that he had even been arrested. The Chinese Govt. stated that all ethnic Chinese are the property of the Chinese Government, and therefore they can arrest them whatever thier citizenship is. |
Could you provide a link to that? |
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Summer Wine
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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It was in a print newspaper. I never saw it online.
It was an article about a businessman who had been arrested, convicted and imprisoned before the Australian Government even discovered it.
Though if you consider the Rio Tinto businessman or the recent Chinese Australian indiviudual who was charged and imprisoned without being allowed an Australian embassy staff in the court room as he was being charged under Chinese security rules, then it wont be too hard to find one yourself.
Or a similar case, from your own country. |
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CentralCali
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, I'm doubtful that the PRC government said, "These people are our property." I'm also doubtful that they said "All ethnic Chinese are our property." What I would not be surprised by is a government saying, "We do not recognize the renunciation of citizenship and therefore a person you say obtained citizenship in your country does so happen to fall under our jurisdiction." That's not unheard of in the least. So, perhaps you can see why I'm asking for a link. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Fair point.
THough regardless, thier belief in something or lack of belief does not in any way negate facts on the ground.
Though we basically said the same thing. If they refuse to accept the rights of those citizens as Australians, then they negate any protection that is afforded them under international law, thus making them no more than property as property has no rights. |
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