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madoka

Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:32 pm Post subject: Asians in the Library |
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I see a future NET racist in the making. She would surely be embraced by the Dave's community as their new queen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg3tIERI-D4&feature=player_embedded
Self-identified UCLA student Alexandra Wallace has gained national notoriety -- and more than 1,000,000 views -- for posting a YouTube video which shows her in a 3-minute long tirade against Asian students.
In the clip, called "Asians in the Library," Wallace says the "hordes of Asians" at UCLA lack American manners. She also mocks their speech and faults them for calling family in the wake of the tsunami. "I swear they're going through their whole families just checking on everybody from the tsunami thing," she said.
She continues:
All the Asian people that live in all the apartments around me...and everybody that they know that they brought along from Asia with them comes here on the weekends to do their laundry, buy their groceries, and cook their food for the week.
It's seriously without fail, you will always see old Asian people running around this apartment complex every weekend. That's what they do. They don't teach their kids to fend for themselves...
Hi. In America we do not talk on our cell phones in the library...I'll be typing away furiously, blah blah blah, and then all of the sudden, when I'm about to, like, reach an epiphany, over here from somewhere, 'OHH Ching chong ling long ting tong? OHH' |
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West Coast Tatterdemalion
Joined: 31 Aug 2010
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Pot meet kettle. |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: In my Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: Asians in the Library |
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madoka wrote: |
In America we do not talk on our cell phones in the library... |
A valid point of frustration with any immigrant wave not yet integrated. It IS rude to talk on cell phones in libraries. I'm surprised the library doesn't have a rule about it. Or maybe it's not enforced?
Anyway, she couldn't just leave it at that. She had to transfer her irritation with the behaviour into resentment toward a population of people, bringing up what should be wholly irrelevant things like relatives visiting on the weekend (?) and her own ignorance as to the languages heard, reducing them to a crude mimickry joke string of sounds as heard by an outsider. She went from a valid criticism to racist caricature. Shame on her. |
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hondaicivic
Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Location: Daegu, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: Asians in the Library |
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Louis VI wrote: |
madoka wrote: |
In America we do not talk on our cell phones in the library... |
A valid point of frustration with any immigrant wave not yet integrated. It IS rude to talk on cell phones in libraries. I'm surprised the library doesn't have a rule about it. Or maybe it's not enforced?
Anyway, she couldn't just leave it at that. She had to transfer her irritation with the behaviour into resentment toward a population of people, bringing up what should be wholly irrelevant things like relatives visiting on the weekend (?) and her own ignorance as to the languages heard, reducing them to a crude mimickry joke string of sounds as heard by an outsider. She went from a valid criticism to racist caricature. Shame on her. |
I have a feeling she's gonna get jump real soon.... |
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madoka

Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Asians in the Library |
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hondaicivic wrote: |
I have a feeling she's gonna get jump real soon.... |
She's already gone into hiding:
"On Tuesday, two days after the video went viral, the dean of students was looking into disciplining her, an embarrassed UCLA chancellor was calling her comments shameful, and campus police were investigating threats against her.
"The vast majority of those are more annoying than threatening, but out of an abundance of caution campus police are investigating a small number to determine whether any crime was committed," campus spokesman Phil Hampton said of the threats.
He declined to describe the messages in detail but said he wouldn't characterize them as rising to the level of death threats."
Meanwhile, the junior has gone underground. She pulled her contact information from the UCLA student directory and did not respond to several e-mailed requests for comment from The Associated Press. |
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murmanjake

Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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madoka, really?
Cause NETs on Dave's are always spouting racist nonsense like "ching chong ching."
Where's YOUR bias coming from? |
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madoka

Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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murmanjake wrote: |
madoka, really?
Cause NETs on Dave's are always spouting racist nonsense like "ching chong ching."
Where's YOUR bias coming from? |
There was a thread on here a couple of years ago where a NET laughed about how he made some girl in his class cry by belittling Koreans. Part of his barrage was mocking what Korean sounded like to him.
While many of the racists on here have been driven out with the new forum rules, many of them keep coming back with new usernames. Check out any number of threads on manners if you want more examples. They think exactly like this girl. |
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McGenghis
Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Location: Gangneung
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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murmanjake wrote: |
madoka, really?
Cause NETs on Dave's are always spouting racist nonsense like "ching chong ching."
Where's YOUR bias coming from? |
I agree with this. There are lots of examples of racist nonsense here, but it does not represent the general timbre of the board. |
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madoka

Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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McGenghis wrote: |
There are lots of examples of racist nonsense here, but it does not represent the general timbre of the board. |
While I agree that that is not the "general timbre of the board," I am only referring to the racists here and not all NETs. I'm sorry for the poor wording on my part. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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I have met some NETs in Korea that say slightly racist things about Koreans. I don't think they are racists, or they intend to be racist. It's more they are embittered by life in Korea and their complaints tend to be misguided generalisations about Korean people.
However, there are some Asian foreigners that seem to have a chip on their shoulder about white people. I guess they had to go through the same racist BS in their home countries, and they enjoy the shoe being on the other foot, so to speak.
I had to go through it, but I don't spend my time trying to get back at the white man. |
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sadguy
Joined: 13 Feb 2011
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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cj1976 wrote: |
I have met some NETs in Korea that say slightly racist things about Koreans. I don't think they are racists, or they intend to be racist. It's more they are embittered by life in Korea and their complaints tend to be misguided generalisations about Korean people.
However, there are some Asian foreigners that seem to have a chip on their shoulder about white people. I guess they had to go through the same racist BS in their home countries, and they enjoy the shoe being on the other foot, so to speak.
I had to go through it, but I don't spend my time trying to get back at the white man. |
i think this is true, although most asian americans wont admit it. i'm an asian american and i notice i get along better with asian people here. although all of my close friends in the states were white.
but it's not about the shoe being on the other foot. there's just some subtle things that the average suburban middle class white guy doesn't get.
and, asia does something to foreign white guys- not all, but a lot. they build up some sort of pseudo-confidence like they are hot sheet, whereas back in the states, they were just another chump like everyone else. but then you meet people who have been here for a few years and they are more down to earth and can often times be really cool people. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Some dudes do have a sense of entitlement that's for sure, but that soon gets knocked out of them after a few months here! |
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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I will be labeled as a racist and what not, but don't really care.
The truth of the matter is that most minorities in the U.S. don't like white people. Especially children of immigrants.
I don't know if white people are really aware of this or not. But just because Jorge smiles and waves at you everyday doesn't mean that he's not muttering "pinche guero" under his breath.
I'm all in favor of having an honest racial discourse in America. The thing is that everyone is such a big *beep* that no one can say anything.
I'm Asian and it's annoying what that girl said, but it's more annoying because of how retarded she is. Let her say what she wants. She completely destroyed her life by doing so. No need to give her death threats or get her kicked out of school. Her speech isn't hate speech that will put anyone in danger but herself.
She was just too stupid to realize the consequences of her actions. I'm sure a lot of people, including other minorities, harbor the same feelings towards Asians. There are TONS of people on this board who harbor the same resentments as this Alexandra girl does. People try to disguise this resentment by justifying their judgments with other criteria. Face it, some groups just annoy you.
White people are in a weird position where they cannot say anything about anyone. So they have no practice. By the time they actually work up the nerve to say anything, it comes out all retarded, case in point: Alexandra Wallace (nevermind that she is a complete dumbass, and I'm ashamed that I went to the same school as her).
The only refuge that white people have nowadays is to label things as racist. And that's the ONLY position they can take on race these days, but this is quite annoying too. The loudest voices on racism nowadays are these white hipsters who just claim everything is racist. Every comment on the Huffington post is a white person calling another person a racist even when the article in question is about food.
But I'm all in favor of white people being able to say as much as other people as long as its not hate speech that is going to put anyone's health/safety in danger (which I would say for anyone else anyway). This is the only way to ameliorate racial tension in America.
But we still have all this racial tension, because, again, everyone is a gigantic *beep*. It's also appalling how "appalled" people get by this girl. Why are we even surprised? We're all f'ing racist. 99% of Americans if they encounter a homeless black guy walking towards them is going to think that the guy might do something even if it's for a split second.
Let's have an honest discourse on race for once in our lives! |
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sadguy
Joined: 13 Feb 2011
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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in defense of whitey in america. a lot a-holes can be confused with being racist, when in fact, they are just a-holes which is kind of what you're saying.
if you're a minority and a white person is rude to you, you think in the back of your head "what a racist " customer service is a good example. if the person over the counter is a white person and they are rude and unhelpful, you think it's because you're a minority, but they're probably the same way towards everyone.
side story: you guys tell me if this was racist... my asian friend and i went to a viet restaurant based on a recommendation on dave's. it was crap. my friend asked "what is it a white dude that recommended it because they don't know what good asian food should taste like." you probably get a lot of this type of thinking with other minority groups like mexicans, indians, etc. |
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MyNameIsNobody
Joined: 12 Jan 2011 Location: Here
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:15 pm Post subject: Asians in the Library |
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methdxman wrote: |
I will be labeled as a racist and what not, but don't really care.
The truth of the matter is that most minorities in the U.S. don't like white people. Especially children of immigrants.
I don't know if white people are really aware of this or not. But just because Jorge smiles and waves at you everyday doesn't mean that he's not muttering "pinche guero" under his breath.
I'm all in favor of having an honest racial discourse in America. The thing is that everyone is such a big *beep* that no one can say anything... |
I have no interest in labeling you a racist, and I'm honestly just curious as to why you think immigrant children, in particular, don't like white people (I'm assuming you mean racial-minority immigrant children and not just immigrant children). I'm first-generation American myself, and I can probably fill in the blanks (in-group/out-group/exoticism/discrimination/conformism/etc.) but I certainly have a personal bias. The "pinche guero" example you discuss above is not really telling, and in my experience, works both ways. |
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