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Still sensational anti-foriegner journalism?
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
MacLean wrote:
I no longer give a damn what any Korean person thinks about me and/or my fellow English teachers. If they want to continue being clueless xenophobes then fine, but they're not going to get any respect from me. And they're not going to get any respect from anyone that I talk to Korea about back in Canada. They can rant against native teachers all they want. I don't respect Korea or Koreans enough to give a damn. In the end they're only shooting themselves in the foot, and that's perfectly fine with me.


Respond to group judgments with group judgments. Great.


Should have said " Give respect where it is deserved, strive to deserve respect."

edit: Wow, I'm getting better at making up quotes. Move over, Oscar Wilde.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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article after article


Oh please, a once a month write-up by one writer is nothing. That's the rate at which these anti-NET articles surface.

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television program after television program


????

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Now, if even one person or one organization had even once spoken up in our defense I wouldn�t be quite so contemptuous of Korea


So its your claim that in all the newspapers there has never once been a printed article supporting our position? That never once has a person offering a quote defended us?

It's your claim that there was never any significant judicial rulings in our favor regarding discrimination and harassment?

It's your claim that the U.N. Secretary General never advocated ending HIV testing for NETs? (Although I would claim this was more of an HIV issue than an NET one, calicoe would beg to differ)

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But there has not been a single word in our defence from Epik, Smoe, Gepik, hagwon associations, recruiters, politicians, churches, labour unions, movie stars, artists, intellectuals, university groups, or anyone at all


And you know this how?

Not to mention, isn't a bit narcissistic to expect said people to focus on NETs considering all the issues in the world? I mean, sorry dude, you and your "suffering" does not deserve to be the center of attention or even deserve that much care from a good 95% of the population. With limited resources, there are people who have it a hundred times worse.

Not to mention, I am sure you were quite active in foreign workers causes back home right? I mean I'm sure on your resume is some work, right?
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MacLean



Joined: 14 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails, you are a bore!

(And drop this "our" stuff. You're a gyopo. You're not the target of the diatribes.)
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MacLean wrote:
Steelrails, you are a bore!

(And drop this "our" stuff. You're a gyopo. You're not the target of the diatribes.)


What diatribes? I read a number of papers here and rarely find anti-foreigner stuff in them. If anything, the papers are guilty of simply shilling for corporate Korea.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MacLean wrote:
Steelrails, you are a bore!

(And drop this "our" stuff. You're a gyopo. You're not the target of the diatribes.)


RIIIGGHHHTT because there has NEVER been any anti-gyopo stuff printed in the paper. Rolling Eyes

Sorry but I am with "you". I am an "our". And I am not a gyopo. Gyopos have Korean parents.

But I guess your point is that gyopos aren't "real" foreigners. And that they aren't a part of "your" culture.

Now who is the bigot?
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MacLean



Joined: 14 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
MacLean wrote:
Steelrails, you are a bore!

(And drop this "our" stuff. You're a gyopo. You're not the target of the diatribes.)


RIIIGGHHHTT because there has NEVER been any anti-gyopo stuff printed in the paper. Rolling Eyes

Sorry but I am with "you". I am an "our". And I am not a gyopo. Gyopos have Korean parents.

But I guess your point is that gyopos aren't "real" foreigners. And that they aren't a part of "your" culture.

Now who is the bigot?


I swear you are dense man. Of course gyopos are part of Western culture, if that is where they live. Canada, alongside most other Western societies, is tolerant and welcoming of diversity. Korea is not. It is Korea that sets gyopos apart from other foreigners, not me. Being of Korean ethicity, they are not the ones targetted by the diatribes. If they were, they'd have to do the criminal and drug tests. They don't. Gyopos are not in a position to comment on what NET's of non-Korean ancestry go through here in Korea. They have not walked in our shoes. Pointing out the obvious hardly makes one a bigot.

But I can hardly be surprised to see that, once again, you have tried to twist another posters words to fit your argument. Build up a strawman, then knock it down.

Unbelievable.
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tiger fancini



Joined: 21 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MacLean wrote:
Canada, alongside most other Western societies, is tolerant and welcoming of diversity. Korea is not.


The British, French and German governments have all recently claimed that multi-culturalism has failed.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Canada, alongside most other Western societies, is tolerant and welcoming of diversity. Korea is not.


So how besides Canada and the U.S., how many Western nations have a major, legislature-seat holding anti-immigrant political party? Virtually all of them.

Between the Minutemen, the Republican Party, Geert Wilders and Banning veils, it seems westerners aren't so welcoming of diversity. Witness the row over Obama bowing. Koreans don't care if 2MB shakes hands instead of bowing. Americans do. Then again many Americans don't mind at all. Just like many Koreans don't have a problem with NETs.

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It is Korea that sets gyopos apart from other foreigners, not me. Being of Korean ethicity, they are not the ones targetted by the diatribes. If they were, they'd have to do the criminal and drug tests.


So that needle in my arm and CBC I had to submit was all a hallucination?

Guess what, we have to do those too.

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Gyopos are not in a position to comment on what NET's of non-Korean ancestry go through here in Korea. They have not walked in our shoes. Pointing out the obvious hardly makes one a bigot.


So you would submit then that whites back home are not in a position to comment on any racism back home?

Funny Maclean, I didn't notice you getting all huffy at white posters in the "UCLA Racism" thread who chose to comment....

Actually some of us are in a great position because we get to see things through two lenses. We can camouflage ourselves and take notice. So there are certain things you might miss out, since as how you look through other people's eyes.

And yes, I am with you. I am part of the "our". I am an NET. Unlike you, I view "our" through a professional and economic lens and if you had a clue you'd realize that those CBCs and drug tests are not there for "racism" reasons but economic ones- as in not getting sued. Duh.

Learn how the world works. Learn about lawsuits and liability before you just rant and rave about "racism". Guess what? A CBC is a great way to avoid being sued for hiring someone who was a danger. If you ran a hagwon you'd demand them as well. And if you can lobby the government to bear this costs rather than you the Hagwon, then you'll do that.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

McLean you are clearly trolling or\and full of it.

If you actually read the papers or followed the news in Korean you would hear all sorts of things.

You rant about media\korean society bashing foreigners all the time but provide zero evidence of this.

Your position is so ridiculous it is beyond funny.

Now go troll somewhere else or learn to temper your opinion and use perspective...

How did you ever graduate university with analytical skills like yours??? Wow.
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