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Summer Wine
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 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:18 pm Post subject: Basic mistakes in Elementary Books |
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I have noted a number of basic mistakes in elementary books, such as missing out "the" before a word e.g. its between bank and school.
Which can end up being ingrained in the students vocab.
Though, this one has me questioning if its a difference in pronounciation than I am used too or an intentional mistake.
Grade 4, Level 2: Show time.
After a picture of the ball;
"Where is the bong?"
"Its under the bed".
The students are saying ball, but every time I hear it on the tape, I think the guy is saying bong as there is no 'L' sound.
Do you think its some NETs idea of a joke or just a pronounciation issue? |
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ThingsComeAround
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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I'd listen again. Although I haven't heard the 4th grade CD, in my opinion the books weren't written to teach English, but to line the pockets of a MoE official and his/her family-friend.
6th grade books have "the washer machine" story for the first 4 chapters and "July 7th" for the next 4 chapters. As though whoever made it didn't have access to the internet, which has trillions of kid friendly stories or at least a library. Alas, trying would take effort  |
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Summer Wine
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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The story was repeated 8-10 times as the teacher was busy with something else and so just kept on replaying it.
I listened awfully hard and I would have sworn he kept on saying Bong, but I figured it could be a pronounciation issue, but the kids said ball so thats cool with me.
Though, yeah. Considering that Korea has had NETS for as long as it has, you would think that the books could be better.
Gina is spelt with a 'G', not a 'J'. Though what I find troublesome, is when there is a clear mistake and the KT keeps on using it, even when you explained that its a mistake.
It must be good being a KT, you can think that you know better than the person who has been speaking english their whole life, went through 2 Universities and taught for approx 8 yrs in Korea. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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"STFU and just do you job!" would be what your k-teacher will say.  |
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nukeday
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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"The story was repeated 8-10 times as the teacher was busy with something else and so just kept on replaying it. "
Eh? Is this the class you co-teach? Do you do any actual work? |
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Summer Wine
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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"The story was repeated 8-10 times as the teacher was busy with something else and so just kept on replaying it. "
Eh? Is this the class you co-teach? Do you do any actual work? |
Oh, no he's never let me teach. Co-teaching or otherwise. I just sit there and try not to get too bored.
I do teach afterschool classes though, but mainly I am expected to just stand at the back and occassionally repeat something on a board.
The most boring year of my life in Korea, and the most soul sucking. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Summer Wine wrote: |
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"The story was repeated 8-10 times as the teacher was busy with something else and so just kept on replaying it. "
Eh? Is this the class you co-teach? Do you do any actual work? |
Oh, no he's never let me teach. Co-teaching or otherwise. I just sit there and try not to get too bored.
I do teach afterschool classes though, but mainly I am expected to just stand at the back and occassionally repeat something on a board.
The most boring year of my life in Korea, and the most soul sucking. |
look on the bright side. you're being paid to do nothing. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Ramen wrote: |
| "STPU and just do you job!" would be what your k-teacher will say. |
Fixed that  |
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winterfall
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Summer Wine wrote: |
| nukeday wrote: |
"The story was repeated 8-10 times as the teacher was busy with something else and so just kept on replaying it. "
Eh? Is this the class you co-teach? Do you do any actual work? |
Oh, no he's never let me teach. Co-teaching or otherwise. I just sit there and try not to get too bored.
I do teach afterschool classes though, but mainly I am expected to just stand at the back and occassionally repeat something on a board.
The most boring year of my life in Korea, and the most soul sucking. |
I'm surprised you survived, I tried it for 5 minutes and flat out told mine I'm going back to my desk to do some "Real" work |
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northway
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| While I think Korean English books are generally pretty terrible in terms of the grammatical errors (my elementary kids can catch a lot of them), it's not isolated to books from here, as the McGraw Hill books I've used have been chock full of typos, errors, and downright incomprehensible material. |
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RMNC
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| Summer Wine wrote: |
Oh, no he's never let me teach. Co-teaching or otherwise. I just sit there and try not to get too bored.
I do teach afterschool classes though, but mainly I am expected to just stand at the back and occassionally repeat something on a board.
The most boring year of my life in Korea, and the most soul sucking. |
Honestly, that sounds like an awesome job to me. 2k a month and a free apartment to chill out for a few hours a day and get occasionally asked to do whatever? Sweet. |
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DaHu
Joined: 09 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: Basic mistakes in Elementary Books |
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| Summer Wine wrote: |
I have noted a number of basic mistakes in elementary books, such as missing out "the" before a word e.g. its between bank and school.
Which can end up being ingrained in the students vocab.
Though, this one has me questioning if its a difference in pronounciation than I am used too or an intentional mistake.
Grade 4, Level 2: Show time.
After a picture of the ball;
"Where is the bong?"
"Its under the bed".
The students are saying ball, but every time I hear it on the tape, I think the guy is saying bong as there is no 'L' sound.
Do you think its some NETs idea of a joke or just a pronounciation issue? |
Correct your own posts before correcting others? There are 10 errors in your post, so you can see it's not easy to find all the mistakes in something, especially if it's not your native language. |
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shostahoosier
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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It depends on if the "Gina" student is Korean or not.
I have a "Jin A" as a student and she goes nuts whenever I spell her name with a G.  |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| RMNC wrote: |
| Summer Wine wrote: |
Oh, no he's never let me teach. Co-teaching or otherwise. I just sit there and try not to get too bored.
I do teach afterschool classes though, but mainly I am expected to just stand at the back and occassionally repeat something on a board.
The most boring year of my life in Korea, and the most soul sucking. |
Honestly, that sounds like an awesome job to me. 2k a month and a free apartment to chill out for a few hours a day and get occasionally asked to do whatever? Sweet. |
Trust me thats what I used to think when ever I heard someone else bitching about it, but since I had the job - its not all its cracked up to be.
You feel so useless and its not helping that this is what the KTs are subtly telling you by not trusting you with anything.
I mean it should be the sweetest jb, but its so mind blowingly numb, it just makes you feel like walking out the door and leaving. Its like one pointless exercise after another.
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Basic mistakes in Elementary Books |
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| DaHu wrote: |
| Summer Wine wrote: |
I have noted a number of basic mistakes in elementary books, such as missing out "the" before a word e.g. its between bank and school.
Which can end up being ingrained in the students vocab.
Though, this one has me questioning if its a difference in pronounciation than I am used too or an intentional mistake.
Grade 4, Level 2: Show time.
After a picture of the ball;
"Where is the bong?"
"Its under the bed".
The students are saying ball, but every time I hear it on the tape, I think the guy is saying bong as there is no 'L' sound.
Do you think its some NETs idea of a joke or just a pronounciation issue? |
Correct your own posts before correcting others? There are 10 errors in your post, so you can see it's not easy to find all the mistakes in something, especially if it's not your native language. |
Fine I made a mistake.
Now identify the ten. Oh and whether they are grammar or spelling mistakes.
Also whether I wrote them intentionally as mistakes or not.
If they are spelling mistakes then maybe its just a difference in how we spell things, if its unintentional grammar mistakes then I accept I made mistakes.
Though if not, then it sounds just like sour grapes. |
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