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Steelrails
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| geldedgoat wrote: |
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| Or perhaps they feel that the social benefits of their daughter going to school outweigh the risks. |
Setting the risk of death issue, which Fox has already addressed, what social benefits do you think this girl would experience if every single person she encounters in her school is forced to wash many more times than normal and is banned from bring Snickers and PB&Js because of her? |
Knowing kids, at least one of them will try and contaminate her jsut to see what happens.
Who knows? Maybe the parents have already thought of this and are picturing $$$ from the lawsuit they will file against the school when that happens. |
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Captain Corea
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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^What you say sounds similar to autism over here in the US. It was an almost unheard of affliction when I was a kid, but now I hear like 1 in a 100 children are being diagnosed as autistic.
WTF? |
So have these tings increased, or are we simply better at detecting/understanding them? |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
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It's really hard to say. It's not too much to ask for kids to wash their hands and mouths, is it? At least they didn't ban bringing peanut products into the school. Some schools have already done just that.
My friend had a peanut allergy when we were young. She was a Chinese "anchor baby" (her mom moved to the US when 7 months pregnant,) so apparently Asians do have this allergy. If she ate something containing peanuts, her face would swell up and she'd have trouble breathing. It wasn't a fatal allergy, but it was pretty serious. Her body has developed a slight tolerance to it, though, over the years. She just gets a few hives on her arms and neck if she accidentally ingests the stuff. |
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MyNameIsNobody
Joined: 12 Jan 2011
Location: Here
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:19 pm Post subject: Girl with Peanut Allergy Causes Controversy at Florida schoo |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| caniff wrote: |
^What you say sounds similar to autism over here in the US. It was an almost unheard of affliction when I was a kid, but now I hear like 1 in a 100 children are being diagnosed as autistic.
WTF? |
So have these tings increased, or are we simply better at detecting/understanding them? |
+1.5
People tend to forget that the world was once flat (unless you're Sherri Shepard). Science/exploration helps us understand our world a little more each day (it also leads to a never ending supply of questions).
I.e., we don't know what we don't know until some unknown tomorrow  . |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| The whole peanut allergy thing is weird. It was pretty unknown in the West a few decades ago, and it's completely unknown in the East now. |
Seriously, what's next, lethal wheat allergy? Pretty soon schools will be hermetically sealed and children will be scrubbed with lye powder at the door. |
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ThingsComeAround
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Underwaterbob wrote: |
| Hyeon Een wrote: |
| The whole peanut allergy thing is weird. It was pretty unknown in the West a few decades ago, and it's completely unknown in the East now. |
Seriously, what's next, lethal wheat allergy? Pretty soon schools will be hermetically sealed and children will be scrubbed with lye powder at the door. |
Sounds like a damn good idea  |
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MyNameIsNobody
Joined: 12 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:01 am Post subject: Girl with Peanut Allergy Causes Controversy at Florida schoo |
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| Underwaterbob wrote: |
| Hyeon Een wrote: |
| The whole peanut allergy thing is weird. It was pretty unknown in the West a few decades ago, and it's completely unknown in the East now. |
Seriously, what's next, lethal wheat allergy? Pretty soon schools will be hermetically sealed and children will be scrubbed with lye powder at the door. |
I blame the system...
...the immune system  . |
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Fox
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Parental protests result in the school in question reducing its measures to protect the young girl.
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EDGEWATER, Fla. -- A Florida elementary school beset by parental protests is scrapping some of the more severe restrictions it had implemented to protect a first-grader with a severe allergy to nuts, such as obliging classmates to rinse their mouths twice daily with water.
Parents were told Wednesday that students at Edgewater Public School, south of Daytona Beach, no longer have to rinse their mouths upon arriving and again after lunch. The school also is easing up on restrictions on classroom snacks, though pupils still must wash their hands and faces at school to avoid introducing nut residue into the classrooms.
The measures were implemented earlier to protect a first-grader who could develop breathing problems from contact with nuts. But some parents protested outside school, saying that the measures went too far. |
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caniff
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| caniff wrote: |
^What you say sounds similar to autism over here in the US. It was an almost unheard of affliction when I was a kid, but now I hear like 1 in a 100 children are being diagnosed as autistic.
WTF? |
So have these tings increased, or are we simply better at detecting/understanding them? |
I don't know, therefore my use of "WTF (is up with that)?"
I gotta say, though, that as a cynic I'm not beyond envisioning doctors and Big Pharma jumping on a bandwagon if it helps to make a buck and to increase their collective raison d'etre in the eyes of a gullible public. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:16 am Post subject: Re: Girl with Peanut Allergy Causes Controversy at Florida s |
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I remember from my Toxicology and Cancer course that there is an African population that uses peanuts as a staple food (not sure if we're talking about the same one). Their population also has a high incidence of cancer which has been attributed to the carcinogen aflatoxin, a mycotoxin found in the fungus that can grow on peanuts. So, while the peanut won't kill you, the carcinogen found with the peanut can  . |
Sorry. I meant major protein source. Peanut sauce and soups are very common in Western Africa. |
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MyNameIsNobody
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Girl with Peanut Allergy Causes Controversy at Florida s |
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| NohopeSeriously wrote: |
| MyNameIsNobody wrote: |
| I remember from my Toxicology and Cancer course that there is an African population that uses peanuts as a staple food (not sure if we're talking about the same one). Their population also has a high incidence of cancer which has been attributed to the carcinogen aflatoxin, a mycotoxin found in the fungus that can grow on peanuts. So, while the peanut won't kill you, the carcinogen found with the peanut can . |
Sorry. I meant major protein source. Peanut sauce and soups are very common in Western Africa. |
No worries.
I did a little digging on Pubmed for a more credible source than my shady memory of a class I audited for fun.
I'm linking to two articles that discuss aflatoxin. Why did I pick these two? You can access them for free, and of the free, they're the most recent.
The first one, "HIV and hepatocellular and esophageal carcinomas related to consumption of mycotoxin-prone foods in sub-Saharan Africa," (link here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20484447 - sorry, I have no idea how to make the title the link  ) and the second one, "Hepatocellular carcinoma and aflatoxin exposure in Zhuqing Village, Fusui County, People's Republic of China," (link here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11219772 ) have a lot of extraneous information as it relates to the topic of aflatoxin and cancer in Western Africa.
The links are going to take you to the abstracts, but you can click on the "Full Text" icon in the right-hand panel for the whole articles. Unless you really care about the details, I would just skim the articles and focus on the most interesting bits.
Alternatively, check out Wikipedia's page on aflatoxin (link here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aflatoxin ). Some people may dump on this site, but I see a lot of good in a peer-review system, not to say there isn't any bad. Due diligence and all that jazz. |
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