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Johnkim
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:51 pm Post subject: Re:Medical condition |
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Just curious to know whether applicants for public schools would confess to having a mental condition when making an application with the MOE.
Under the: ''Do you suffer a medical condition'' box, I stated I suffer from depression. Honesty is the best policy. I am in good health but need meds to stay balanced. Did I do the right thing by being honest?
Another thing. I am finding it extremely hard finding previous posts on Public school experiences. Some advice from current or past teachers on their experiences would be good.
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:12 pm Post subject: Re:Medical condition |
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Johnkim wrote: |
Just curious to know whether applicants for public schools would confess to having a mental condition when making an application with the MOE.
Under the: ''Do you suffer a medical condition'' box, I stated I suffer from depression. Honesty is the best policy. I am in good health but need meds to stay balanced. Did I do the right thing by being honest?
Another thing. I am finding it extremely hard finding previous posts on Public school experiences. Some advice from current or past teachers on their experiences would be good.
Cheers. |
mentioning your mental med condition in your application automatically eliminated you from ps job. |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008 Location: Marakesh
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:39 pm Post subject: Re:Medical condition |
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Ramen wrote: |
Johnkim wrote: |
Just curious to know whether applicants for public schools would confess to having a mental condition when making an application with the MOE.
Under the: ''Do you suffer a medical condition'' box, I stated I suffer from depression. Honesty is the best policy. I am in good health but need meds to stay balanced. Did I do the right thing by being honest?
Another thing. I am finding it extremely hard finding previous posts on Public school experiences. Some advice from current or past teachers on their experiences would be good.
Cheers. |
mentioning your mental med condition in your application automatically eliminated you from ps job. |
Probably.
Honestly, if you have depression, Korea is probably not the place for you.
Now, there are plenty of people who will say "oh, i've traveled before with depression and i'm fine" or "I've lived in other countries with depression and it hasn't been an issue" etc.
Traveling is one thing - being a long term resident is a totally different thing. Living in some countries is different from living in Korea.
Korea is NOT the place to be if you are a foreigner with depression. It can be very isolating, even if you have friends. People in general do not stay here long term, so you may have a good friend who disappears a few months later. The culture here is very different from back home, etc.
Seriously, plenty of examples of teacher suicides here, people burning out and running, alcoholics, etc. Give this some SERIOUS consideration. |
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Johnkim
Joined: 03 Mar 2011
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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If I have eliminated a prospect of geting a Job with the MOE well then tough luck. But, I lived in Seoul between 2000-2002 with the same condition and now I am much better mentally and physically than I was back then and am older too.
I did not isolate myself and made many friends. I know South Korea can be a cruel place, I had my experiences of Hakwon Hell then. But I won't be going back to a Hakwon.
I don't want to sound ironic in wit, but I found spirituality as an answer to loneliness even in my home country and am dealing with it well.
Korea is a tough place I know and I did experience a measure of loneliness and isolation. But I am prepared to take up the challenge again knowing what to expect this time. Besides, there are always Korean people that want to practice English speaking, that is a good social engagement even if it does not promise long term friendship.
I will take the risk as long as it is a secure job and it appears PS jobs are very secure. Correct me if I am wrong on the last statement. |
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Kaypea
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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I think there's plenty of people doing well here, who have mild depression. I have a little history of anxiety and I'm fine. I find being a cultural outsider helps a lot, ie I don't feel any stressful pressure to fit in because I never, ever, ever will. There's posts on here all the time about how to get an English speaking shrink or how to get prozac, etc, so it's all being done.
That being said, if you don't think your condition is stable... that is, if you go nuts/flip out/ etc from time to time, maybe you shouldn't come on over. If your condition is 100% manageable with meds and good habits, you're fine. Stay well, sleep lots, get exercise, lay off the excesses, you'll be fine! |
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shostahoosier
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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I originally put that I had been diagnosed with depression on my original application and I was immediately rejected because of it (I was even told so).
I came to this board for advice and everyone told me I wouldnt be able to cope with how miserable Korea is and that I shouldnt bother.
I ignored their advice and I am doing great here...probably better than if I had stayed at home in the crazy work environment I was dealing with. I know of several other teachers in the same boat.
Your environment has a huge effect on your psychological condition. Keeping that in mind, realize that you could end up at a really awesome job here, or a really crappy one and that can help or hurt your condition.
Only you and your doctors know if you're stable enough to attempt to come. I asked mine and they actually told me it would be good for me if I made the jump. Had they told me no, I wouldnt have come.
I'm not saying you SHOULD or SHOULD NOT come. I AM saying that the people who can give you the best advice in regards to your situation are not on this message board.
I've said it before...but not admitting that you've had depression in your past on your application IS a lie...but lying never seems to be a problem for the potheads and alcoholics who come over. Until recently it wasnt a problem for criminals eithier.
good luck! |
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shostahoosier
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Johnkim wrote: |
If I have eliminated a prospect of geting a Job with the MOE well then tough luck. |
Just apply to another MOE. If you applied to EPIK...then you're probably out of luck for Seoul, the major cities, and most provinces...but you're ok for Gyeonggi-do and I also think Ulsan has a seperate MOE application as well. There are a couple other cities out there that hire separately too.
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I will take the risk as long as it is a secure job and it appears PS jobs are very secure. Correct me if I am wrong on the last statement. |
Public school jobs can be secure if you can get them but cuts are coming. My province is cutting a lot of positions (I know TWELVE people whose schools wont get any more English money in the fall) so it might be tougher to get in.
Good luck. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:39 am Post subject: Re:Medical condition |
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Johnkim wrote: |
Just curious to know whether applicants for public schools would confess to having a mental condition when making an application with the MOE.
Under the: ''Do you suffer a medical condition'' box, I stated I suffer from depression. Honesty is the best policy. I am in good health but need meds to stay balanced. Did I do the right thing by being honest?
Another thing. I am finding it extremely hard finding previous posts on Public school experiences. Some advice from current or past teachers on their experiences would be good.
Cheers. |
Admitting to a mental health issue will kill any hope of a PS job with that particular program.
Admitting to a mental health issue when applying through a recruiter will see your application tossed into the bin.
Admitting to a mental health issue on your "self medical" that you send for the visa confirmation number will get your application denied.
Admitting to a mental health issue on your visa application will get your visa denied.
See the recurring pattern?
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:40 am Post subject: Re:Medical condition |
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Johnkim wrote: |
Just curious to know whether applicants for public schools would confess to having a mental condition when making an application with the MOE.
Under the: ''Do you suffer a medical condition'' box, I stated I suffer from depression. Honesty is the best policy. I am in good health but need meds to stay balanced. Did I do the right thing by being honest?
Another thing. I am finding it extremely hard finding previous posts on Public school experiences. Some advice from current or past teachers on their experiences would be good.
Cheers. |
Admitting to a mental health issue will kill any hope of a PS job with that particular program.
Admitting to a mental health issue when applying through a recruiter will see your application tossed into the bin.
Admitting to a mental health issue on your "self medical" that you send for the visa confirmation number will get your application denied.
Admitting to a mental health issue on your visa application will get your visa denied.
See the recurring pattern?
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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Considering that Korea has one of the highest suicide rates in the world and also blames 80-90% of them on depression, I'd have to say it wasn't the best idea.
I got my info from SPSS data obtained from 한국사회과학자료원 @ http://www.kossda.or.kr/
So you can check there for more specific info. |
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tamaralynn
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cyui
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
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Get help, but don't use Obersturmbannf�hrer for treatment.
Re: Anti-Comintern in Japanese Policy. |
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ironclad80
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:01 am Post subject: |
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I survived a year in Korea with depression. I learned that depression will follow you no matter where you go. Luckily, I made good friends to make it through my harder times. Honestly, I get more depressed back home. I live in a small, close-minded town and I'm very open-minded and like trying and learning new things. If you don't feel comfortable stepping outside of your comfort zone, then maybe Korea is not for you.
You need to decide on your own. Everyone is different. Sure those who never experienced depression will say "don't come." But for me and many others, it IS doable. |
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Dazed and Confused
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:07 am Post subject: |
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Is your depression situation induced or do you suffer from a chemical imbalance? I suffer from a chemical imbalance and while it does suck at times I know when I need to see my doctor. I've got a great psychiatrist who has been nothing more than professional and helpful. I'm put on the right track with medication quickly with very few side effects and it doesn't effect my job in any serious way. In fact, when I was at my very first job in Korea and needed medication my hogwon director was a bit skeptical about me continuing to work there. It didn't make matters any better that I had to take him along to translate as I'd been in the country for only a month. However, he quickly saw how well I was able to continue to keep up with the work and let it go. Nowadays, I don't disclose my condition to my employer because I see it as a physical condition that needs to be maintained. And I can navigate the health system on my own or with help of family members. |
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ironclad80
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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rchristo10 wrote: |
Considering that Korea has one of the highest suicide rates in the world and also blames 80-90% of them on depression, I'd have to say it wasn't the best idea.
I got my info from SPSS data obtained from 한국사회과학자료원 @ http://www.kossda.or.kr/
So you can check there for more specific info. |
those statistics reflect native korean citizens. some of my korean friends work 14 hour days, 6 (sometimes even 7) days a week. the pressure they are under is unimaginable to most of us. foreign english teachers aren't asked to work hours anything like that. and if you did get a job with such demands, run! |
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