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rhian



Joined: 22 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:19 am    Post subject: kids driving you crazy? Reply with quote

what do you do when the kids are driving you up the wall? with the mimicking, the babbling on in korean, the "songsegnim babo ya" etc? now i would love to be able to give them a telling off that they can understand but my powers of Korean simply aren't up to it (something they know and take full advantage of)! any interesting and drastic disceplinary techniques out there to share?
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Learn Korean, or really work on your classroom Korean. My classroom Korean is good enough to tell them nearly everything I would in the UK. Or, when that is exhausted shout in English. It scares them. It is more effective when you do it to one student in particular. I've had classes paralyzed by fear.
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aussie col



Joined: 31 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it��s really hard when you get sh*ts like this. The best thing to do is try and get the school behind you. Most directors will gladly come into the class and scream at them until they melt into the floor. Unless money is hard and then they will just pat the kids on the head and tell them how crazy their waygook teacher is.

You could talk to the meanest male Korean teacher at the school�� usually the one who always carries the wooden stick around. I had a great Korean English teacher at my school who would make the students almost cry if he just said their name.

But if that fails here are some things to do:

Start making weekly reports that get sent to the parents. Just have a Korean teacher translate a master copy with things like ��xxx talked in Korean the whole class�� or ��xxx is constantly talking, rude to the teacher and not participating in the class��. Then you can just check the appropriate box and the parents will see what little xxx is really doing in class. These kids are sh*t scared that their mothers will find out that they are wasting their money by not working hard.

Now the fun stuff��

Carry a permanent marker. Every time a student misbehaves give them a mark across the back of the hand. Korean kids hate having ink on themselves and spend all night trying to rub it off so their parents don��t see it and start asking why.

After a number of warnings put a chalk circle on the board and make the student put his/her nose on it for the rest of the class. Once again they hate getting dirty but also are sh*t scared that a Korean teacher will walk past and see them with their nose to the board. It also helps that all the rest of the students are laughing at them.

This won��t work all the time but once with a class of boys who would say things to me in Korean I just started writing the words down that I didn��t understand phonetically. I knew by the laughs that they were swearing at me in Korean. After class I took the list back to the staffroom making sure that the boys were close enough to hear me. I then proceeded to read the list to all the Korean teachers and ask them what the words meant. I never had problems with this class again. The Korean teachers were shocked and I laughed about it for the next 2 weeks.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of mine will shut up on threat of a yellow card, which means they get homework of lines. If they start getting too many I will cancel the lesson and they will do lines. Specific offenders are asked to leave and will write lines after school and if behaviour does not improve the homeroom teacher is contacted.

I also carry a stick for pointing and making noise with. There is no wake up call like my stick getting wacked across your desk.
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aussie col



Joined: 31 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like your style crazylemongirl.

I say bring back the stick to Australian schools. Not just the desk however, a good whack accross the bum never harmed anyone.
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Kristsoy



Joined: 23 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:31 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

i agree with crazy, but that doesnt always work. I take a large stick into class, and if im really pissed off the kid gets kicked out of the room and have to hold a chair over their head until i come to get them
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aussie col wrote:
Yeah it��s really hard when you get sh*ts like this. The best thing to do is try and get the school behind you. Most directors will gladly come into the class and scream at them until they melt into the floor. Unless money is hard and then they will just pat the kids on the head and tell them how crazy their waygook teacher is.

You could talk to the meanest male Korean teacher at the school�� usually the one who always carries the wooden stick around. I had a great Korean English teacher at my school who would make the students almost cry if he just said their name.

But if that fails here are some things to do:

Start making weekly reports that get sent to the parents. Just have a Korean teacher translate a master copy with things like ��xxx talked in Korean the whole class�� or ��xxx is constantly talking, rude to the teacher and not participating in the class��. Then you can just check the appropriate box and the parents will see what little xxx is really doing in class. These kids are sh*t scared that their mothers will find out that they are wasting their money by not working hard.

Now the fun stuff��

Carry a permanent marker. Every time a student misbehaves give them a mark across the back of the hand. Korean kids hate having ink on themselves and spend all night trying to rub it off so their parents don��t see it and start asking why.

After a number of warnings put a chalk circle on the board and make the student put his/her nose on it for the rest of the class. Once again they hate getting dirty but also are sh*t scared that a Korean teacher will walk past and see them with their nose to the board. It also helps that all the rest of the students are laughing at them.

This won��t work all the time but once with a class of boys who would say things to me in Korean I just started writing the words down that I didn��t understand phonetically. I knew by the laughs that they were swearing at me in Korean. After class I took the list back to the staffroom making sure that the boys were close enough to hear me. I then proceeded to read the list to all the Korean teachers and ask them what the words meant. I never had problems with this class again. The Korean teachers were shocked and I laughed about it for the next 2 weeks.


Some good ideas here, but I can assure you, I've tried every last one, to no result, on a certain 14 yr olds class I have.
I used the marker pen trick...its good. But the supervisor told me to discontinue it as she was afraid of the parents complaining.
I've talked at length about this class to the supervisor. Her ideas are as lame as could be imagined. I can't even kick the kids out of class. I used to shout my head off at them. I was asked to relax and calm down with them...
I have given up on this class. All I can do now is go around the group of them one by one, making them read through the work individually.
I'm not even allowed to write a bad report for them, the director is afraid of the parents pulling their darlings out if they get any adverse reports.

I've never felt so utterly stymied in my life...its exhausting. i certainly won't be renewing at this hagwon. Some of you guys are allowed to carry sticks into class. Count yourselves lucky.
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Kristsoy



Joined: 23 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:03 am    Post subject: well Reply with quote

well actually im not "allowed" to carry sticks becasue they "told" me not to do it, but I havent listened to them lately so why this time. I said the korean teachers do it so..........

and they had no good response so i kept doing it
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inexhile



Joined: 18 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WARNING Exclamation

Before taking any action make sure all students hand in their cellphones.
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aussie col



Joined: 31 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Camera phones, what a great idea.

Tell the bad students that you are going to take photos of misbehaving students and send them direct to their mum��s phone. After mum gets 10 picture messages of little xxxx running around the class she will be down there to kick some arse. You'd have to wait and see whether it would be the kids, yours or the directors butt however.

Or buy a video camera and tell all the students that you are going to film all the classes so you can show the parents what the little sh*ts are like on parents day.
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003