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bluebear847
Joined: 11 Nov 2010
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:00 pm Post subject: Any Female Teachers to Help Convince Parents Korea is Safe |
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Hi,
I am hoping to get in contact with any female or Korean American teachers that can help convince my parents Korea is safe and teaching is not horrible. You can either message me or post in this topic about your experiences or even how you convinced your parents in letting you go to Korea. My parents are just the typical Asian parents that are super strict and don't understand the concept of traveling and stuff after graduating college and just want me to go to graduate school directly. I'm only 22 though and still not quite sure what I want do with my life which is why I want to travel and experience to get more of an idea. FYI my mom and dad immigrated to the US more than 30 years ago, and we have only been back to Korea once about 10 years ago for 2 weeks so my mom's concept of Korea I think is more 30 years ago which makes it harder.
Please anybody HELP!!! |
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rumdiary

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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You're 22 and need help getting your parents permission? Your parents are probably right. This would be too much for you to handle. What are you going to do when your boss tells you to come in on Saturday even though your contract says you don't have to?
Screw it. That's bad advice. You need this experience. Give your parents the bird and hop on a plane. And remember that if you go home early they will be waiting at the airport saying, "I told you so," and you will never, ever, ever, grow up. |
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: Any Female Teachers to Help Convince Parents Korea is Sa |
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bluebear847 wrote: |
Hi,
I am hoping to get in contact with any female or Korean American teachers that can help convince my parents Korea is safe and teaching is not horrible. You can either message me or post in this topic about your experiences or even how you convinced your parents in letting you go to Korea. My parents are just the typical Asian parents that are super strict and don't understand the concept of traveling and stuff after graduating college and just want me to go to graduate school directly. I'm only 22 though and still not quite sure what I want do with my life which is why I want to travel and experience to get more of an idea. FYI my mom and dad immigrated to the US more than 30 years ago, and we have only been back to Korea once about 10 years ago for 2 weeks so my mom's concept of Korea I think is more 30 years ago which makes it harder.
Please anybody HELP!!! |
Everything is relative to where you (city) and your parents (country) are from and what your definition of safe is.
In terms of violent crime Korea is a very safe place.
Either your parents are dumb or you live in the safest place in the U.S. What country are they from?
I think honestly that they're just trying to come up with some b.s. excuse for you not to leave home. |
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hondaicivic
Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Location: Daegu, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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rumdiary wrote: |
You're 22 and need help getting your parents permission? Your parents are probably right. This would be too much for you to handle. What are you going to do when your boss tells you to come in on Saturday even though your contract says you don't have to?
Screw it. That's bad advice. You need this experience. Give your parents the bird and hop on a plane. And remember that if you go home early they will be waiting at the airport saying, "I told you so," and you will never, ever, ever, grow up. |
+1.....what he said. Moreover, I think it's because you're a female that's why they're reluctant to let you go. But then again, tell them to ModEdit for Cool Adult Word off because you're 22 and they're not in Korea anymore. The US constitution and laws override their ModEdit for Big-boy Adult Word confucious ethos. You officially become an adult when you turn 18. To quote Matt Damon from Good Will Hunting: "How do you like dem apples!?".... By the way, I'm asian-american as well. |
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legrande
Joined: 23 Nov 2010
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Tell them you want to learn more about your background, and that there's no more amenable place for a gyopo gal to learn some survival skills, while at the same time finding out why her parents are so anal, and how good Japanese radiation can feel on one's bare skin |
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hellofaniceguy

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: On your computer screen!
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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While I can understand the parents' concerns...I question the maturity of a 22 year old...."needing" the parents "ok".....
Live life as you want to...enjoy it...life is short as it is....and in the end...nothing matters anyway..... |
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sallymonster

Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Location: Seattle area
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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My parents are also controlling and co-dependent. They and I had a huge fight when I broke the news to them that I was coming to Korea.
OP, the key is to finance your trip to Korea on you own without your parents' help. That means paying for your own visa documents, flight (if you're going to work at public school), and startup living costs. I used a combination of tax refund, unemployment checks (I'd been laid off from a previous job), and working temporarily for the US Census, to fund my move to Korea.
Once you have enough of your own money and your documents ready to go, contact recruiters, find a yourself a decent job, get your visa, and get on the plane. There's nothing your parents can do to stop you if you're paying your own way, and they'll get over it anyway. Though after you get here you should expect some annoying whining from your parents every time Kim Jeong Il is in the news  |
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bluebear847
Joined: 11 Nov 2010
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks sallymonster for your input that is exactly what I am doing right now and saving up for my trip to Korea on my own and everything as well as getting all my paperwork together.
As for some of the other questions...my Mom lived and grew up in Seoul but left when she was a teen, my dad is actually a Korean born and raised in Japan so he has never really lived in Korea. And like some people said I think it is more of the idea of a young female going by herself to a different country etc that is worrying my parents. I'm actually looking in positions around Ilsan, Seoul, and Bundang.
Now for some of the people talking about my maturity level because I want the okay from my parents because of my age, well first of all I do not think it is immature for me to have the support of my parents in what I do. Second of all you don't know what my family situation is and why I would want their blessing, third of all I'm just asking for help to put them more at ease about the idea. I did not say I'm going to give up completely or put my life on hold because they say no, I would just like to make the situation easier for them and myself. |
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nero
Joined: 11 Mar 2009
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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bluebear847 wrote: |
Thanks sallymonster for your input that is exactly what I am doing right now and saving up for my trip to Korea on my own and everything as well as getting all my paperwork together.
As for some of the other questions...my Mom lived and grew up in Seoul but left when she was a teen, my dad is actually a Korean born and raised in Japan so he has never really lived in Korea. And like some people said I think it is more of the idea of a young female going by herself to a different country etc that is worrying my parents. I'm actually looking in positions around Ilsan, Seoul, and Bundang.
Now for some of the people talking about my maturity level because I want the okay from my parents because of my age, well first of all I do not think it is immature for me to have the support of my parents in what I do. Second of all you don't know what my family situation is and why I would want their blessing, third of all I'm just asking for help to put them more at ease about the idea. I did not say I'm going to give up completely or put my life on hold because they say no, I would just like to make the situation easier for them and myself. |
OP, I think people are just a bit shocked that a 22 year old would require the permission of her parents to do anything.
There is 'support' and then there is controlling behaviour. If your parents throw a tantrum about you coming to Korea I think they need to grow up a little bit. I can't think of a safer country to go to.
Good luck. |
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Caffeinated
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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In the subways, don't get into shouting matches with ajummas or fall asleep beside an ajosshi. |
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Jeunesse
Joined: 11 Nov 2009
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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I've taught here for 2 years, am a 24-year-old female, and have had nothing but a safe and pleasant experience. Korea is a 1st world country and petty crime is far lower than it is back home. As for potential issues at your workplace, it's on you to do due diligence and speak to the teacher you would be replacing - this is the only way you can get an honest low-down about what the deal is at your school. Be polite, but firm when asking questions about health insurance, severance pay, and vacation time during the interview. You'll be fine.
This might be a good learning experience for you. You're a college graduate and an adult - you don't need your parents' "permission" to do anything, and frankly, the idea that your parents have to "let you" do something at age 22 is a bit absurd. It sounds like they will be dead-set against you going no matter what - so just go, and establish a healthier relationship with strong boundaries. When they see that the sky has not fallen and you are doing well in their former country, perhaps they will re-evaluate cutting the cord. |
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conrad2
Joined: 05 Nov 2009
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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I have known many female teachers here in Korea who were attacked, raped, molested,and/or beaten by the local men. |
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sadguy
Joined: 13 Feb 2011
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:47 am Post subject: |
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i'm asian american with strict asian parents. they didn't let me do anything when i was growing up. at age 20, i got an apartment, packed my bags, and told them last minute. they couldn't stop me. they were pissed as hell but learned to accept it.
i don't think you should ask your parents. if this is something you really want, then you should just tell them what you're doing. they will accept it and still love you just the same. they just want to control you, as most traditional asian parents want to do.
i used to think seoul was safe, safer than america. but after talking to the females here, and the local females, a lot of them have some weird stories. guys following them, taxi drivers taking them somewhere dark and remote, old guys flashing them.
if you do come here, my advice would be "don't let your guard down" just because you think seoul is safer than the rest of the world. it might be safer in regards to petty theft muggings and murder, but as far as sex crimes go, i've heard more stories about sex crimes from people i know than i did in america. |
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myenglishisno
Joined: 08 Mar 2011 Location: Geumchon
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:55 am Post subject: Re: Any Female Teachers to Help Convince Parents Korea is Sa |
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bluebear847 wrote: |
Hi,
I am hoping to get in contact with any female or Korean American teachers that can help convince my parents Korea is safe and teaching is not horrible. You can either message me or post in this topic about your experiences or even how you convinced your parents in letting you go to Korea. My parents are just the typical Asian parents that are super strict and don't understand the concept of traveling and stuff after graduating college and just want me to go to graduate school directly. I'm only 22 though and still not quite sure what I want do with my life which is why I want to travel and experience to get more of an idea. FYI my mom and dad immigrated to the US more than 30 years ago, and we have only been back to Korea once about 10 years ago for 2 weeks so my mom's concept of Korea I think is more 30 years ago which makes it harder.
Please anybody HELP!!! |
I used to know someone like you...
She was in her mid-twenties and had controlling, Republican parents back home. I thinked she begged for years to get permission to come teach overseas and when she arrived, she came with an operations manual (I even think her parents chose the school for her). She wasn't allowed to go out late while she was here and she had to Skype her parents during the night to assure them she was at home and not out partying. The weird thing is that she actually did this.
Everytime we were out as a group she would sit there with her arms folded looking disapprovingly at everything. The mere smell of alcohol made her uncomfortable. If someone swore or alluded to something that wasn't in the Bible she would clench right up and eventually find an excuse to go home. Once I swear I heard her mouthing Bible verses to herself while someone was telling off-colour jokes.
I think she actually did finish a whole year but hearing your story makes me think of her.
The fact that you're 22 and you still haven't flipped your parents off yet and they're still as into your pockets as they probably were when you were 15... the fact that you're even on here asking us whether or not you can make this decision... says to me that you're pretty much just like the girl I talked about.
Grow a spine!
As for Korea being safe... the only dangerous thing about Korea is the air and the traffic. I'd say it was safer than most Western countries overall due to the lack of violent crime. |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Yes, mom and dad are always retards and 22 year olds know everything and should be allowed to throw smack in their veins no matter what mommy and daddy think.
Look, just because someone adopts a more conservative lifestyle doesn't make them immature or mean they have bad values.
Not every person who tells mom and dad to kiss their butt is demonstrating maturity and sound decision making, and not everyone who seeks their parents permission is lacking said qualities.
Mommy and daddy shouldn't hold your hand, but at the same time you should at least listen to what they have to say and strongly consider it.
That being said I think we can agree that the parents are not exactly up to date with how Korea is or what is going on and that the OP needs to be somewhat more assertive.
But the solution to the problem is NOT telling mom and dad to take a hike. There are ways for the OP to go to Korea in spite of her parent's objections while still maintaining good relations.
I am baffled by people suggesting that the "mature" course is tell your parents to buzz off. That's what a child who is throwing a temper tantrum does.
Maturity is not found in being independent from your parents. Maturity is being able to follow your own path while possessing the humility and wisdom to listen to advice from your parents and elders and to have the guts to admit that they are right sometimes. |
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