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southernman
Joined: 15 Jan 2010
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 Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:44 pm Post subject: Has anyone else had to submit to Police check from Korea? |
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First of all I want to state up front that I totally support Police background checks. I think that anyone working with children and young people should have to pass a Police Background check.
I was however pleasantly surprised when my co-teacher, somewhat timidly, approached me and asked me to sign my name, giving permission for the Korean Police to run a background check on me for the time I been here in Korea. She showed me her identical permission form.
It has to be a good thing, because the Korean Teachers are also having to give their permission for the background check to be done on them.
I think its a good idea, and somewhat long overdue for our Korean colleagues. |
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mmstyle
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:50 am Post subject: |
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| Yes (for SMOE), but I did not sign anything, my CT just said he would take care of it (after I pointedly told him 3 times that he would have to come with me if I had to do it). I have no idea if my colleagues have to do the same. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:26 am Post subject: |
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I seriously doubt you are required to do this. The co-teacher is either jumping the gun or mistakenly assuming that a requirement that the Korean teachers must submit to also applies to the foreign teachers. I know plenty of people (including me) make fun of the Korean approach to logic; however, this makes no sense at all for the foreign teacher. If you did have a criminal conviction here in Korea, you would no longer be in Korea.
Ask your co-teacher to show you the government memo which specifically requires you to submit to this. If there isn't one, don't do it--especially if they expect you to pay for it out of pocket with no reimbursement.
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southernman
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:28 am Post subject: |
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I''m with EPIK and it seems that things are a bit different between SMOE and EPIK, again...
I didn't have to do anything apart from sign a form giving the Korean Police permission to check on whether I've committed any offences, while i've been in Korea, and to pass on that information to my POE.
All the Korean teachers at my school also had to complete the permission form for the Police to do criminal background checks on them and then for the Police to pass on the information to our POE.
Centralcali, maybe offenses that aren't criminal as such would not mean NET's would be sent home. For instance, would a misdemeanor get a NET deported? I'm actually not to sure about the finer points of the law here.
But if they had a law for urinating in publc ( obviously they don't, or it's not actioned on  ) then I don't think a NET would be sent home. But that would still be on your criminal record |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:47 am Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| If you did have a criminal conviction here in Korea, you would no longer be in Korea. |
I made exactly that point when it was put in front of me. I still had to do it. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| I seriously doubt you are required to do this. |
It may be a requirement of that particular school board. Such requirements usually do not distinguish between Koreans and foreigners, just "teachers" in general. Similar to the bi-annual health checks that PS teachers have to have; everyone gets them.
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| Ask your co-teacher to show you the government memo which specifically requires you to submit to this. If there isn't one, don't do it--especially if they expect you to pay for it out of pocket with no reimbursement. |
Why make a stink about it? First, you have no criminal record in Korea (as you say, if you did you would no longer be in Korea in the first place). Second, it doesn't cost anything. |
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alwaysbeclosing100
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| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:25 pm Post subject: re |
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| i had to get one b/c i worked at a private school before moving to epik. it was super easy. take your ARC card to a decent size police headquarters and they will print one out. it took like 5 minutes. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| CentralCali wrote: |
| I seriously doubt you are required to do this. |
It may be a requirement of that particular school board. Such requirements usually do not distinguish between Koreans and foreigners, just "teachers" in general. Similar to the bi-annual health checks that PS teachers have to have; everyone gets them. |
If it is, in fact, a requirement of that Office of Education, then there will be an actual governmental directive mandating it which the co-teacher can produce and present to the OP.
As to health checks, foreign teachers get one every year for renewal. There is also a requirement for certain types of health screening for everyone of certain ages; however, these screenings are mandated by the National Pension Office.
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| Ask your co-teacher to show you the government memo which specifically requires you to submit to this. If there isn't one, don't do it--especially if they expect you to pay for it out of pocket with no reimbursement. |
Why make a stink about it? First, you have no criminal record in Korea (as you say, if you did you would no longer be in Korea in the first place). Second, it doesn't cost anything. |
Well, apparently it may cost some people something. But my main objection is to jumping through hoops when it's not required. We foreign teachers already have to jump through enough hoops now.
If it's actually required then there's documentary proof of the requirement. If it's actually required, I'll do it. If there's no proof of the requirement, they can blow smoke. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:27 am Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| CentralCali wrote: |
| I seriously doubt you are required to do this. |
It may be a requirement of that particular school board. Such requirements usually do not distinguish between Koreans and foreigners, just "teachers" in general. Similar to the bi-annual health checks that PS teachers have to have; everyone gets them. |
If it is, in fact, a requirement of that Office of Education, then there will be an actual governmental directive mandating it which the co-teacher can produce and present to the OP.
As to health checks, foreign teachers get one every year for renewal. There is also a requirement for certain types of health screening for everyone of certain ages; however, these screenings are mandated by the National Pension Office.
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| Ask your co-teacher to show you the government memo which specifically requires you to submit to this. If there isn't one, don't do it--especially if they expect you to pay for it out of pocket with no reimbursement. |
Why make a stink about it? First, you have no criminal record in Korea (as you say, if you did you would no longer be in Korea in the first place). Second, it doesn't cost anything. |
Well, apparently it may cost some people something. But my main objection is to jumping through hoops when it's not required. We foreign teachers already have to jump through enough hoops now.
If it's actually required then there's documentary proof of the requirement. If it's actually required, I'll do it. If there's no proof of the requirement, they can blow smoke. |
Not EVERYTHING in this country has to be made into an us vs them issue or a point-to-the-contract issue. Save your energies for when it really does matter to take a stand. This particular issue is not one of them.
The co-teacher wants your signature giving them permission to get your Korean CBC. Give it to them. It's not like YOU are the one doing all the running around trying to get it. If they want to waste their time running all over town getting it, they are more than welcome to knock themselves out. Here's my signature. Now get out of my office and let me get back to work.
But, yes, if *I* was expected to do all the running around, then I'd tell them to pound sand. I have better ways of wasting my time. |
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