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Prevlin
Joined: 28 Feb 2011
Location: South Africa
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 Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:49 am Post subject: Getting internet??? |
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Hi guys
I wanted to know what is the procedure for getting internet access at at my home. I will be moving to Korea shortly and just wanted an idea as to what I will need to buy, what is the cost as well as likely speeds. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:05 am Post subject: Re: Getting internet??? |
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| Prevlin wrote: |
Hi guys
I wanted to know what is the procedure for getting internet access at at my home. I will be moving to Korea shortly and just wanted an idea as to what I will need to buy, what is the cost as well as likely speeds. |
You will need a computer.
They will supply everything else for the hookup.
Speeds are 2-10mbps for cable (as in cable TV/internet package). (15-25k won)
20-100mbps mbps for VDSL connections (lite to full service). 25-35k won.
1000 mbps (FTTH / fiber service). 60k won.
You need your ARC to sign up (unless your school does it for you). Ask a co-teacher to call the internet company.
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Prevlin
Joined: 28 Feb 2011
Location: South Africa
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| thanks man,i really dont understand what you mean by cable tv and vdsl and things like that. Im from South Africa and we dont have stuff like that. the fastest speed we have here is 4 mbps i think |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:50 am Post subject: |
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| Prevlin wrote: |
| thanks man,i really dont understand what you mean by cable tv and vdsl and things like that. Im from South Africa and we dont have stuff like that. the fastest speed we have here is 4 mbps i think |
I don't think you can get anything that slow in Korea.
Cable means the internet comes through your cable TV line (along with your TV signal). This is also the reason for the slow speeds (that and the fact that you share the line with others in your building (shared line to the node).
ADSL and VDSL are (higher speed) digital subscriber lines. They are dedicated lines to the node.
FTTH is fiber optic line to your house (gigabit network speeds).
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| When you come, get your internet through your cable TV provider. Right now, KT and SK are just horrible with overseas connections. An undersea cable was damaged in the Japan quake, and it seems like KT and SK are so bogged-down with smartphone bandwidth that they're all slow as heck. I had a cheaper cable TV internet connection that was actually faster than the big names until I stupidly switched to KT. |
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
| When you come, get your internet through your cable TV provider. Right now, KT and SK are just horrible with overseas connections. An undersea cable was damaged in the Japan quake, and it seems like KT and SK are so bogged-down with smartphone bandwidth that they're all slow as heck. I had a cheaper cable TV internet connection that was actually faster than the big names until I stupidly switched to KT. |
Any cable provider has to go across the same underseas cables to get to the sites overseas as well. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
| When you come, get your internet through your cable TV provider. Right now, KT and SK are just horrible with overseas connections. An undersea cable was damaged in the Japan quake, and it seems like KT and SK are so bogged-down with smartphone bandwidth that they're all slow as heck. I had a cheaper cable TV internet connection that was actually faster than the big names until I stupidly switched to KT. |
I think that a more likely reason would be the migration to IPv6 from IPv4.
I have experienced similar problems with connectivity and routing going from Asia to North America and NOT just from Korea and it began BEFORE the Japan quake).
The problems are system wide throughout APNIC.
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| crossmr wrote: |
| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
| When you come, get your internet through your cable TV provider. Right now, KT and SK are just horrible with overseas connections. An undersea cable was damaged in the Japan quake, and it seems like KT and SK are so bogged-down with smartphone bandwidth that they're all slow as heck. I had a cheaper cable TV internet connection that was actually faster than the big names until I stupidly switched to KT. |
Any cable provider has to go across the same underseas cables to get to the sites overseas as well. |
Big name cable providers are squelching access to YouTube and Skype over and above the speed problems already experienced by the loss of cables. They are saving bandwidth for premium accounts. My SK 3g phone accesses youtube and skype at 3 times the speed of my SK home connection. My friends with cable tv internet are far faster using youtube and skype than my SK account. The squelching has even been reported in the media here. And yes, they all access the same cables going out so obviously there's some controlled squelching. |
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myenglishisno
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Getting internet??? |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
You will need a computer. |
The internet is on computers, now?! |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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The big name providers bit off more than they could choose servicing unlimited bandwidth smartphone accounts. This is the result. Japan is a convenient excuse for more squelching.
It was also reported in the Korean media this week that the providers are trying to get out of unlimited bandwith contracts for smartphones. They're getting absolutely killed right now andI don't have the infrastructure to handle it. |
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
The big name providers bit off more than they could choose servicing unlimited bandwidth smartphone accounts. This is the result. Japan is a convenient excuse for more squelching.
It was also reported in the Korean media this week that the providers are trying to get out of unlimited bandwith contracts for smartphones. They're getting absolutely killed right now andI don't have the infrastructure to handle it. |
These would be too different things, and I doubt they're getting killed on it. KT has olleh wifi everywhere. You really shouldn't be doing that much heavy use on just 3G anyway unless you're out somewhere in the middle of nowhere where your heavy usage wouldn't have a big impact anyway.
KT already caps app downloads to 20mb requiring wifi for any apps over that size.
but the overseas issues and there being a problem with unlimited packages aren't remotely related at all. |
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Wad
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:54 am Post subject: |
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FTTH is fiber optic line to your house (gigabit network speeds).
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What ISP is providing fast Fiber Optic service for 60k a month? How about SK telecom? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Wad wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
FTTH is fiber optic line to your house (gigabit network speeds).
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What ISP is providing fast Fiber Optic service for 60k a month? How about SK telecom? |
KT has been switching from VDSL to FTTH since 2007 and now offers it in limited areas (mostly newer apartment complexes and officetels in Seoul and Gyeonggi) and currently has about 3.3 million households who can subscribe to FTTH.
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Wad
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:22 am Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| Wad wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
FTTH is fiber optic line to your house (gigabit network speeds).
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What ISP is providing fast Fiber Optic service for 60k a month? How about SK telecom? |
KT has been switching from VDSL to FTTH since 2007 and now offers it in limited areas (mostly newer apartment complexes and officetels in Seoul and Gyeonggi) and currently has about 3.3 million households who can subscribe to FTTH.
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You don't have a link to this do you? As far as I can tell (KT) it is still in a trial period with 1,500 homes in five cities. Can't seem to find anywhere where they have rolled out FTTH Gigabit commercially. FTTH 100 Mbps Yes, but not 1000 Mbps!
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archmagos
Joined: 14 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
I think that a more likely reason would be the migration to IPv6 from IPv4.
I have experienced similar problems with connectivity and routing going from Asia to North America and NOT just from Korea and it began BEFORE the Japan quake).
The problems are system wide throughout APNIC. |
I wasn't aware that any Korean ISPs had any serious ipv6 adoption strategies. I had asked a question regarding this a few months back, as all I could find was a powerpoint presentation from KT in 2008 saying that it was very important (but providing few other details for actual deployment dates). |
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