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48�2(9+3)=?
2
57%
 57%  [ 16 ]
288
42%
 42%  [ 12 ]
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MyNameIsNobody



Joined: 12 Jan 2011
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:14 am    Post subject: What does... Reply with quote

Mr. Peabody wrote:
Mr. Peabody wrote:


Answer

48
__ * (9+3) = 288
2


It's not 48/(2(9+3)) = 2

You are adding brackets that don't exist.Either way, the equation is poorly written.


MyNamwIsNobody wrote:
In order for 2 to be the solution, the formula would have to be written with additional parentheses:


duh...that's what I said... Rolling Eyes

Well, sorry I didn't give you credit along with RMNC and Google, but I wouldn't classify this as a "duh" topic. People are getting the answer 2 as well as 288. Of course what you and I have written mean the same thing. However, you solved the problem in one step, and I took several for clarity. Obviously, I am not clarifying for you.

silkhighway: I'm not familiar with Polish notation. To get the answer 288 for the original problem, would the equation be written this way:
x � 48 2 + 9 3 = 288
and to get 2 as your answer this way:
� 48 x + 9 3 2 = 2
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silkhighway



Joined: 24 Oct 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:06 am    Post subject: Re: What does... Reply with quote

MyNameIsNobody wrote:


silkhighway: I'm not familiar with Polish notation. To get the answer 288 for the original problem, would the equation be written this way:
x � 48 2 + 9 3 = 288
and to get 2 as your answer this way:
� 48 x + 9 3 2 = 2
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The answer works out the same, but keeping the numbers in the same order, it's the following:

* � 48 2 + 9 3 = 288

� 48 * 2 + 9 3 = 2

Sorry..computer science nerdiness..what a thread killer Smile
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MyNameIsNobody



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:48 am    Post subject: What does... Reply with quote

Thanks for the correction. I wasn't sure about shifting the numbers around. Smile
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cyui



Joined: 10 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

,....symbol: (∞).......2 is closest to infinity,so everything in this equation acts as a "determinite" without bound..


i=0 in x value that continues to grow in infinitesimus quality.. :shock:
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Mr. Peabody



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RMNC wrote:

Something must be wrong on your end. That link for me goes to google.com's calculator, with the equation and answer as 288.
Now that is perplexing!

I'm seeing Google Korea's search page.... Confused
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silkhighway



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:59 am    Post subject: Re: What does... Reply with quote

MyNameIsNobody wrote:
Thanks for the correction. I wasn't sure about shifting the numbers around. Smile


And just for kicks and giggles we could also use Reverse Polish Notation :

48 2 9 3 + * � = 2

48 2 � 9 3 + * = 288


This is computer science-y stuff, but in math, context and readability are just as important as removing ambiguity like the PEDMAS rules are designed to do. I would discourage my students from writing equations like the one in the poll.
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cyui



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2=y-x .. (0)(2)=xy/04

02>03 ...yyx=(5-2).....

2> 0...005< 3 :lol:
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cyui



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the Polish link.. :P
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Draz



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still maintain Google is the one adding extra brackets that don't exist.

(48 � 2) * (9 + 3) = 288 is not 48�2(9+3)

Or not necessarily. It could be. We need a word problem version to get to the bottom of this.
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silkhighway



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
I still maintain Google is the one adding extra brackets that don't exist.

(48 � 2) * (9 + 3) = 288 is not 48�2(9+3)

Or not necessarily. It could be. We need a word problem version to get to the bottom of this.


Wolfram Alpha agrees with Google. But look how they re-formatted the equation..it's much clearer.
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, 288. It's just a poorly written-out equation.

More math nerdiness:

a=b (multiply both sides by a)
a^2=ab (add a^2 to both sides)
a^2+a^2=a^2+ab (simplify)
2a^2=a^2+ab (subtract 2ab from both sides)
2a^2-2ab=a^2+ab-2ab (simplify)
2a^2-2ab=a^2-ab (factor out a^2-ab)
2(a^2-ab)=1(a^2-ab) (divide both sides by a^2-ab)
2=1
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cyui



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Came up with this earlier: xx/Y ( (∞)
-both x's equal to 1 and y equal to 1...
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Equation is ambiguous, poorly written. Would not be put on a standard test unless the test is meant to test ambiguous things.
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silkhighway



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Underwaterbob wrote:
Yes, 288. It's just a poorly written-out equation.

More math nerdiness:

a=b (multiply both sides by a)
a^2=ab (add a^2 to both sides)
a^2+a^2=a^2+ab (simplify)
2a^2=a^2+ab (subtract 2ab from both sides)
2a^2-2ab=a^2+ab-2ab (simplify)
2a^2-2ab=a^2-ab (factor out a^2-ab)
2(a^2-ab)=1(a^2-ab) (divide both sides by a^2-ab)
2=1



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silkhighway



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WE may as well make this the thread of math nerdiness, kind of like the chess club of Dave's ESL Cafe.

I have two 1L jugs. In one jug I have red wine and in the other jug I have water. I take exactly one teaspoon of wine from the wine jug and pour the teaspoon in the water jug. I then swirl around the water jug until it's slightly purplish. I then take exactly one teaspoon of the water/wine mix from the water jug and pour that teaspoon in the wine jug.

Now is there more wine in the water jug, or more water in the wine jug?
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