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Died By Bear

Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:03 am Post subject: American man detained in North Korea |
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Which one of you was it? It's breaking news on TV in the states right now. When I saw it, I knew it had to be one of the commie regulars here. JUST KIDDING
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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According to the CNN video you can link to via MSNBC, the man "entered North Korea in November", but they don't say how or why, beyond mentioning that other Americans have snuck in across the border. Possibly yet another evangelical Christian jonesing martyrdom, but that's just my speculation. |
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catman

Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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On the other hand wrote: |
According to the CNN video you can link to via MSNBC, the man "entered North Korea in November", but they don't say how or why, beyond mentioning that other Americans have snuck in across the border. Possibly yet another evangelical Christian jonesing martyrdom, but that's just my speculation. |
If it was his wish to be a martyr for Christ it just might be granted. |
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tefain

Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Location: Not too far out there
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:49 am Post subject: |
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I'm starting to wonder if Americans think they're immune to trouble and just enjoy crossing into countries without permission.  |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:11 am Post subject: |
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tefain wrote: |
I'm starting to wonder if Americans think they're immune to trouble and just enjoy crossing into countries without permission.  |
Could it be that Jesus told him to go save North Koreans? That's very American. The USA is prone to religous wackery. It tends to influence the mentally ill in the US especially. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:24 am Post subject: |
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young_clinton wrote: |
tefain wrote: |
I'm starting to wonder if Americans think they're immune to trouble and just enjoy crossing into countries without permission.  |
Could it be that Jesus told him to go save North Koreans? That's very American. The USA is prone to religous wackery. It tends to influence the mentally ill in the US especially. |
The last two Americans to go in, not counting the two journalists, were that Gomes guy and, before him, another Christian, both intent on converting Kim Jong Il. The first guy, as I recall, explicitly stated before going in that he didn't want to be rescued, but then relented. |
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Died By Bear

Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:01 am Post subject: |
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This guy was a Korean American, they said on CNN.
They said he had a business visa for South Korea or something along those lines. |
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goniff
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:10 am Post subject: |
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is the north korean border really that porous? |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:58 am Post subject: |
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goniff wrote: |
is the north korean border really that porous? |
I'm taken to understand that the border between NK and China is quite porous, whereas the one between NK and SK, pretty much airtight. I would assume he didn't go via that route. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:16 am Post subject: |
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We have a name.
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North Korea has confirmed that it has arrested a US citizen and is preparing to charge him with "committing a crime" against the country.
Jun Young-su was arrested in November last year, the official KCNA news agency said.
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And apparently the South Korean media has been speculating that he was indeed a Christian involved in some sort of missionary activity.
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The news of Mr Jun's arrest comes ahead of another visit to Pyongyang by Mr Carter.
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The rescue of imbecilic American Christians from North Korea by Mr. Carter is getting to be a regular event.
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Madigan
Joined: 15 Oct 2010
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:36 am Post subject: |
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young_clinton wrote: |
tefain wrote: |
I'm starting to wonder if Americans think they're immune to trouble and just enjoy crossing into countries without permission.  |
Could it be that Jesus told him to go save North Koreans? That's very American. The USA is prone to religous wackery. It tends to influence the mentally ill in the US especially. |
If you'll please excuse me for the slight derail here, but I just saw some real American Religious wackery. I was walking around town this afternoon and saw these five trailers driving down the street that warned that the World was going to end on May 21, 2011. It's guaranteed in the Bible, you know. No joke! So I felt compelled to google May 21, 2011. Apparently, there is a fellow by the name of Harold Camping who has it on good authority that the World will, indeed, end on May 21, 2011. So, I suppose, we should all prepare ourselves.
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Okay, back to American Christian proselytizers in the DPRK... |
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Eddy24
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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A Christian fanatic has done something crazy? NEVER! |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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goniff wrote: |
is the north korean border really that porous? |
Even the military go hungry, so it's awfully easy to pay off a border guard with $100 and get across. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't be surprised if he was involved in helping North Koreans escape and settle overseas. |
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geldedgoat
Joined: 05 Mar 2009
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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North Koreans are suffering under an extremely oppressive dictatorship. They are, and have been, in dire need of help. For someone to become concerned with this, know the risks associated with crossing into North Korea, and still take action he believes will bring more international attention to the plight of North Koreans is not crazy. It doesn't matter if his religious beliefs drove him to act on his concern or not.
I just wish these guys had the courage of their convictions and would refuse any outside aid. |
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