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walter235
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
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 Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:36 pm Post subject: Heavy Squat Rack? |
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I recently started back in EPIK in a very rural town. There is a gym about 20 minutes away that is a complete joke. Mostly it seems to be the place where the ajumas gather and gossip while pretending to exercise.
Anyway, having a rather large apartment, I'd like to find a decent set of heavy (or at least sturdy) squat racks. For the most part, I use kettlebells, but find heavy squats work best with a bar. Can anyone help me? Thanks! |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Good luck with that.
Where are you in Korea? |
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tukmax
Joined: 06 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| You could always take the power rack build outline from the Starting Strength website and get a welding ajjoshi to whip it up for you. It is very strong. |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| You could always take the power rack build outline from the Starting Strength website and get a welding ajjoshi to whip it up for you. It is very strong. |
You probably have a better chance of doing this than buying one. |
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Rutherford
Joined: 31 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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I'd keep looking. Gyms here have squat racks, which means they're buying them from somewhere. Have a Korean friend help you search and/or ask someone who owns a gym where they order their equipment.
Did you buy kettlebells here? Where did you order them? |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure they sell them here. A power rack would be more useful.
I've yet to see a power rack here.
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walter235
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
Location: korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Rutherford wrote: |
I'd keep looking. Gyms here have squat racks, which means they're buying them from somewhere. Have a Korean friend help you search and/or ask someone who owns a gym where they order their equipment.
Did you buy kettlebells here? Where did you order them? |
I was here a few years back, had some kettlebells then. When I came back, the first thing I did was go to speed and power and order a set of 16 and 24 kg's. |
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decolyon
Joined: 24 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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I don't understand why you think you need a squat rack. Or a bar for that matter.
You can literally train every part of your body, every single muscle group with multiple exercises with a single set of adjustable dumbbells. For the price you're willing to pay for a squat rack you can get the most high end adjustable dumbbells and a few tubs of whey while you're at it.
Kettlebells are okay too. But here's the thing with them. You can't adjust the weight and a dumbbell can almost always be used to replace a kettlebell, but a kettlebell can't always replace a dumbbell. At least without unnecessary strain.
If I could afford (or convince myself to dip into savings for) those bowflex quick adjustable dumbbells, I'd never buy another gym membership in my life. |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| decolyon wrote: |
I don't understand why you think you need a squat rack. Or a bar for that matter.
You can literally train every part of your body, every single muscle group with multiple exercises with a single set of adjustable dumbbells. For the price you're willing to pay for a squat rack you can get the most high end adjustable dumbbells and a few tubs of whey while you're at it.
Kettlebells are okay too. But here's the thing with them. You can't adjust the weight and a dumbbell can almost always be used to replace a kettlebell, but a kettlebell can't always replace a dumbbell. At least without unnecessary strain.
If I could afford (or convince myself to dip into savings for) those bowflex quick adjustable dumbbells, I'd never buy another gym membership in my life. |
Yea, since you can squat 500lbs, deadlift 600lbs, bench 400lbs and clean 250lbs with dumbells. |
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decolyon
Joined: 24 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
| decolyon wrote: |
I don't understand why you think you need a squat rack. Or a bar for that matter.
You can literally train every part of your body, every single muscle group with multiple exercises with a single set of adjustable dumbbells. For the price you're willing to pay for a squat rack you can get the most high end adjustable dumbbells and a few tubs of whey while you're at it.
Kettlebells are okay too. But here's the thing with them. You can't adjust the weight and a dumbbell can almost always be used to replace a kettlebell, but a kettlebell can't always replace a dumbbell. At least without unnecessary strain.
If I could afford (or convince myself to dip into savings for) those bowflex quick adjustable dumbbells, I'd never buy another gym membership in my life. |
Yea, since you can squat 500lbs, deadlift 600lbs, bench 400lbs and clean 250lbs with dumbells. |
You can't lift that much. Few people not juicing their nuts off can.
And unless you're a pro bodybuilder and that's your main source of income, there's no need to attempt that much. Further, it's actually harmful. People that workout because they want their body to be at it's best understand this excessive weight will ruin your joints and tendons and is more likely to lead to serious injury before anything else.
Deflate your ego. You're not Jay Cutler. You probably never will be. Nor should you aspire to be. |
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walter235
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| decolyon wrote: |
I don't understand why you think you need a squat rack. Or a bar for that matter.
You can literally train every part of your body, every single muscle group with multiple exercises with a single set of adjustable dumbbells. For the price you're willing to pay for a squat rack you can get the most high end adjustable dumbbells and a few tubs of whey while you're at it.
Kettlebells are okay too. But here's the thing with them. You can't adjust the weight and a dumbbell can almost always be used to replace a kettlebell, but a kettlebell can't always replace a dumbbell. At least without unnecessary strain.
If I could afford (or convince myself to dip into savings for) those bowflex quick adjustable dumbbells, I'd never buy another gym membership in my life. |
For one thing, I can squat and bench a fair amount. I'm not a pro by any means, but I have not seen a gym that had the weight I could handle. I'm not sure what my current bench is, but I can handle 110-120 lb dumbbells (on the bench). I'd much rather stick to a bar. Besides, I like to lift alone. When you're doing a lot of weight, it's better to have some kind of safety platform.
You obviously don't know much about kettlebells, no kettlebeller would make a statement like that. The off balance of the kettlebell is what makes it good for complicated/multiple moves, much better than dumbbells. I don't like doing squats and deadlifts w/KB's, a bar is a MUCH better tool.
After searching all day, I did find this link. It has squat racks and compete power racks (as well) in Korea. I'm considering one:
http://www.bb.co.kr/main/search/search.php?qry_def=%BB%EA%C0%B8%B7%CE+%B0%F8%BF%F8%C0%B8%B7%CE%7E+%B2%C9%B1%B8%B0%E6+%B6%B0%B3%AA%BA%BC%B1%EE%3F%3F&qry=squat+rack |
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decolyon
Joined: 24 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:21 am Post subject: |
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| walter235 wrote: |
| decolyon wrote: |
I don't understand why you think you need a squat rack. Or a bar for that matter.
You can literally train every part of your body, every single muscle group with multiple exercises with a single set of adjustable dumbbells. For the price you're willing to pay for a squat rack you can get the most high end adjustable dumbbells and a few tubs of whey while you're at it.
Kettlebells are okay too. But here's the thing with them. You can't adjust the weight and a dumbbell can almost always be used to replace a kettlebell, but a kettlebell can't always replace a dumbbell. At least without unnecessary strain.
If I could afford (or convince myself to dip into savings for) those bowflex quick adjustable dumbbells, I'd never buy another gym membership in my life. |
For one thing, I can squat and bench a fair amount. I'm not a pro by any means, but I have not seen a gym that had the weight I could handle. I'm not sure what my current bench is, but I can handle 110-120 lb dumbbells (on the bench). I'd much rather stick to a bar. Besides, I like to lift alone. When you're doing a lot of weight, it's better to have some kind of safety platform.
You obviously don't know much about kettlebells, no kettlebeller would make a statement like that. The off balance of the kettlebell is what makes it good for complicated/multiple moves, much better than dumbbells. I don't like doing squats and deadlifts w/KB's, a bar is a MUCH better tool.
After searching all day, I did find this link. It has squat racks and compete power racks (as well) in Korea. I'm considering one:
http://www.bb.co.kr/main/search/search.php?qry_def=%BB%EA%C0%B8%B7%CE+%B0%F8%BF%F8%C0%B8%B7%CE%7E+%B2%C9%B1%B8%B0%E6+%B6%B0%B3%AA%BA%BC%B1%EE%3F%3F&qry=squat+rack |
I've worked out in 3 gyms in Seoul. Each had well over 250kgs in plates. You can not squat more than that.
And if you really can bench that much, then you have obviously ignored some other part of your body. What's your 10k time?.... Yeah, exactly. You're not fit. You're just muscle on a frame.
You're probably not proportional either. Ok, maybe you're chest and bi's are ripped. How are your rear delts? Lower lats? Tibialis anterior (shin muscle?) Are they as equally strong and in proportion? Probably not. The human body has no muscle that is isolated from the rest. They're all connected and function together to create a single machine. That machine is most effective when all it's parts are individually as strong as the sum total. |
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BankOfRC
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| Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:43 am Post subject: |
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I've worked out in 3 gyms in Seoul. Each had well over 250kgs in plates. You can not squat more than that.
And if you really can bench that much, then you have obviously ignored some other part of your body. What's your 10k time?.... Yeah, exactly. You're not fit. You're just muscle on a frame.
You're probably not proportional either. Ok, maybe you're chest and bi's are ripped. How are your rear delts? Lower lats? Tibialis anterior (shin muscle?) Are they as equally strong and in proportion? Probably not. The human body has no muscle that is isolated from the rest. They're all connected and function together to create a single machine. That machine is most effective when all it's parts are individually as strong as the sum total. |
YOU TELL HIM!!!! I BET HIS *beep* IS EVEN SMALL TOO!!!!!!! ALL THOSE STEROIDS!!!!!!! |
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walter235
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
Location: korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:10 am Post subject: |
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| decolyon wrote: |
| walter235 wrote: |
| decolyon wrote: |
I don't understand why you think you need a squat rack. Or a bar for that matter.
You can literally train every part of your body, every single muscle group with multiple exercises with a single set of adjustable dumbbells. For the price you're willing to pay for a squat rack you can get the most high end adjustable dumbbells and a few tubs of whey while you're at it.
Kettlebells are okay too. But here's the thing with them. You can't adjust the weight and a dumbbell can almost always be used to replace a kettlebell, but a kettlebell can't always replace a dumbbell. At least without unnecessary strain.
If I could afford (or convince myself to dip into savings for) those bowflex quick adjustable dumbbells, I'd never buy another gym membership in my life. |
For one thing, I can squat and bench a fair amount. I'm not a pro by any means, but I have not seen a gym that had the weight I could handle. I'm not sure what my current bench is, but I can handle 110-120 lb dumbbells (on the bench). I'd much rather stick to a bar. Besides, I like to lift alone. When you're doing a lot of weight, it's better to have some kind of safety platform.
You obviously don't know much about kettlebells, no kettlebeller would make a statement like that. The off balance of the kettlebell is what makes it good for complicated/multiple moves, much better than dumbbells. I don't like doing squats and deadlifts w/KB's, a bar is a MUCH better tool.
After searching all day, I did find this link. It has squat racks and compete power racks (as well) in Korea. I'm considering one:
http://www.bb.co.kr/main/search/search.php?qry_def=%BB%EA%C0%B8%B7%CE+%B0%F8%BF%F8%C0%B8%B7%CE%7E+%B2%C9%B1%B8%B0%E6+%B6%B0%B3%AA%BA%BC%B1%EE%3F%3F&qry=squat+rack |
I've worked out in 3 gyms in Seoul. Each had well over 250kgs in plates. You can not squat more than that.
And if you really can bench that much, then you have obviously ignored some other part of your body. What's your 10k time?.... Yeah, exactly. You're not fit. You're just muscle on a frame.
You're probably not proportional either. Ok, maybe you're chest and bi's are ripped. How are your rear delts? Lower lats? Tibialis anterior (shin muscle?) Are they as equally strong and in proportion? Probably not. The human body has no muscle that is isolated from the rest. They're all connected and function together to create a single machine. That machine is most effective when all it's parts are individually as strong as the sum total. |
What a really stupid statement.
I asked about a squat rack, so I can do some power exercises. I do KB's for general strength. I don't care about concentrating on bench and bi's or setting any kind of records. Most of what I'm doing now is stretching and compound KB movements, for chest the only thing I'm doing is a couple hundred pushups. I really don't care for calisthenics, but it's all I have here in the boonies................ |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| decolyon wrote: |
| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
| decolyon wrote: |
I don't understand why you think you need a squat rack. Or a bar for that matter.
You can literally train every part of your body, every single muscle group with multiple exercises with a single set of adjustable dumbbells. For the price you're willing to pay for a squat rack you can get the most high end adjustable dumbbells and a few tubs of whey while you're at it.
Kettlebells are okay too. But here's the thing with them. You can't adjust the weight and a dumbbell can almost always be used to replace a kettlebell, but a kettlebell can't always replace a dumbbell. At least without unnecessary strain.
If I could afford (or convince myself to dip into savings for) those bowflex quick adjustable dumbbells, I'd never buy another gym membership in my life. |
Yea, since you can squat 500lbs, deadlift 600lbs, bench 400lbs and clean 250lbs with dumbells. |
You can't lift that much. Few people not juicing their nuts off can.
And unless you're a pro bodybuilder and that's your main source of income, there's no need to attempt that much. Further, it's actually harmful. People that workout because they want their body to be at it's best understand this excessive weight will ruin your joints and tendons and is more likely to lead to serious injury before anything else.
Deflate your ego. You're not Jay Cutler. You probably never will be. Nor should you aspire to be. |
I have no ego. It sounds like you the one that does. These are resonable goals and weight for a person training for strength. I only care about making my PR's and barbell get that done. I don't care about bodybuilding. I care about strength. Sound like the does too. Go take your bowflex dumbells and stay at 90 lbs on each arm cause that's as far as they go. After 90 lbs there is no more progressive load which means no more adaptation from your body. After a while you body will degress and get stuck. Plus you can't back squat with dumbells.
#1. Squats Are A Full Body Exercise
#2. Squats Boost Favorable Hormones
#3. Squats Build Strength In Your Hips And Core
#4. Squats Build Overall Muscle Mass
#5. Squats Build Mental Toughness
I never said I could do those numbers. I'm not far off. If you wanna come train with me I live in Gyeongsan right outside of Daegu. I use my wife's school's boxing gym. It's free and I get to use chalk. Which is nice when deadlifting. The trains station is just around the corner. |
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