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[Ramen]

[Triban]

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[sirius black]

Sirius Black is a wizard.

Its interesting how some people wish to validate someone based on what they perceive their race is. I've tried to debate facts, stats, etc. concrete things.
If someone is claiming 1+1=2, I'm failing to see if that person being white, black or latino or martian validates or invalidates what they post?

Some people just have a pre-occupation with race or ethnicity and make value judgments based on such trivial and asanine criteria. Its as inane as if the person is left handed or their favorite color is blue.

It speaks volume about the person. We all make certain snap judgments based on color, etc. Its human nature. The extent its taken in some threads on DavesESL is amazing.

Every perconceived stereotype I've had about a great many people have been happily erased because I've been blessed to have done some traveling not only around America but Europe, South America and Asia.

Someone once told me that traveling is one of the best cures for prejudice. I've found that to be true. Unfortunately its not true for everyone.

[dogbert]

[Triban]

Whatevs mayne I'm on dat patron!

[Kuros]

[sirius black]

[Adventurer]

[Adventurer]

[kcs0001]

The country is broke. Yeah, they can do QE3, but its almost reaching the point of "Killing the goose that laid the golden egg."


http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/the_racialization_of_deficit_c.html

Robert Weissberg, American Thinker, April 25, 2011

Race is increasingly infusing the current debate over federal spending and the soaring national debt. {snip}

The modern civil rights movement was initially about personal liberty�from attending schools of one�s choosing, to sitting wherever one chose on a bus and being able to vote regardless of skin color, among myriad other liberties. Yes, expanded federal power was vital but intercessions such as affirmative action were, supposedly, only temporary legal steps to guarantee African Americans options heretofore available only to whites.

With time, however, relatively cheap government edicts were replaced by expensive entitlements. Expanding the Great Society�s anti-poverty programs became a way of life. Opening up the housing market evolved from anti-discrimination laws to the right to government-supplied decent housing, and if that option was unobtainable, government would subsidize private housing or mandate (and guarantee) below-market home mortgages. Laws banning racial discrimination in employment were similarly supplanted by government jobs to soak up black unemployment (blacks now comprise one out of every five non-postal federal employees). Head Start replaced the local babysitter and mandated integration became oversize bureaucracies to assure equal outcomes. In cities with sizable black populations, e.g., Detroit or Newark, municipal jobs became life-savers. Washington has also repeatedly extended unemployment benefits, a benefit that disproportionately helps blacks given their higher levels of joblessness. In a nutshell, for many African Americans �civil rights� has come to mean government generosity, a generosity increasingly financed by borrowing.

The obvious problem is sustainability, as debt replaced tax revenue. {snip} Unfortunately, this fiscal predicament is now being perceived as an attack on African American civil rights. {snip}

This is hardly a fringe view. The Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) website similarly affirms that the quest to escape crushing debt is an anti-black subterfuge. As one CBC member put it,� It is important that everyone understands that in their proposed 2012 budget, Republicans are diverting money from programs needed by the poor, seniors and people with disabilities to corporations and the wealthy in our country.� It is further argued that attempts to reverse ObamaCare means denying health care to many who are now, finally, on the verge of obtaining decent health care. In fact, in 2011 the CBC offered its own budget in the House that reversed some of President Obama�s cuts but it was soundly rejected by a 3 to 1 margin. It predictably called for spending increases for education, job training and other programs to help the poor, to be paid for by upping taxes on the wealthy. The NAACP has recently deplored America�s �under-funding� of education though educational spending has dramatically increased with little to show for these extra billions (and many cities with largely black school populations are among the nation�s best funded schools). {snip}.

Endless borrowing to finance a steady stream of government benefits may seem quite reasonable for many African Americans, particularly those with limited education. It is hardly surprising that after a few years of enjoying a benefit it grows into an unalienable right. Nearly half of all Americans do not pay federal taxes so subsidized housing, food stamps, Head Start and all the rest are �free� {snip}. {snip} African Americans also seem particularly prone to debt, running up larger credit card debts than whites (often double) of comparable incomes (see, for example, here). {snip} Poorly educated citizens in general may also be befuddled with terms like �billion� and �trillion,� let alone the international consequences of excessive indebtedness, so all the dire warnings are just too abstract.

{snip} For many Americans helping African Americans entails a moral obligation that exists independently of fiscal prudence. Further add the difficulty generating private sector employment for many African Americans (trying to boost private sector employment via empowerment zones has proven futile). Most clearly, linking fiscal cutbacks to an �attack� on African American civil rights automatically mobilizes a sizable congressional block of anti-cutback votes (including white legislators dependent on black voters). Resistance will hold even if budgetary hawks like Paul Ryan (R.-WI) can demonstrate that these �civil rights� programs are often wasteful, ineffectual and equally applicable to whites. {snip}

Less obvious, but perhaps of greater importance (though still unspeakable) is the possible link between government cutbacks and domestic violence. Recall that many of today�s programs helping blacks were a response to 1960s urban violence, and they have succeeded. Cutting ethanol subsidies to Iowa farmers is a mere inconvenience compared to firing thousands of black teacher assistants who have few non-government job options. Significant cutbacks here will bring �cold turkey� on a grand scale and expressions like �long hot summer� may soon return.

In the final analysis, the only practical solution may be sustaining government programs that disproportionately assist blacks, regardless of value or costs. {snip}

[Adventurer]

I think the hope for the African American community would be for straightening out the younger generation. One needs to aggressively ensure that African American, Hispanic, and white kids do not have outstanding truancies. If necessary, we should have more boot camps. We need to also have more security in schools, decriminalize drugs, but arrest drug dealers. Decriminilazing drugs in the U.S. would take pressure off Mexico, reduce gang violence there and in the U.S. However, we must go after drug dealers. They are selling poison. The war on drugs destroys people who are disadvantaged and poor most of them. African Americans are capable as anyone to perform well if we can intervene properly to help them do that instead of making excuses. The majority of African Americans are middle class and successful. Everyone must make it in America. We can't make excuses for any Americans, but we should help all Americans succeed.

[Ramen]

i notice the term "redneck" being used a lot in this forum. where i'm from, if i ever called someone "a redneck," i'd be beat half to death and strung and dragged behind a pick-up truck around my home town.

[NovaKart]

Where do you come from? I'm from Kentucky and there many people proudly call themselves rednecks but it's used pejoratively too.

I just read the Jensen article, well not all of it yet. It's interesting how most of the strong anti-Irish prejudice was in the 19th century but people living today talk about it as if they experienced it and claim to have seen no Irish need apply signs.

[Madigan]

^This is true. The progeny of Ireland has done very well for themselves in America. I believe that about 60% of those with Irish surnames have at least a bachelors degree, and many work in well paying white collar jobs. the "woe is me - my great great grand parents suffered during the period of reconstruction" just sounds ridiculous.

[stilicho25]

I don't really know if this fits here, but I think it shows the scale of the challenge facing the country. Inner city kids need an education to be a productive part of society. Something has to be done to turn this around.


http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2011/05/04/report-nearly-half-of-detroiters-cant-read/