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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 2:14 pm    Post subject: Footage showing teacher beating student causes stir Reply with quote

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/05/117_86225.html

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By Kim Rahn

A video clip showing a female teacher at a middle school striking a pupil on the head and cheek has drawn criticism from Internet users.

The footage was posted on YouTube, Saturday, under the title, �A teacher�s violence against a middle school senior in Incheon.�

In the clip, the teacher hit the boy on the head and slapped him on the cheek dozens of times, while holding his ear, in a parking lot at the Everland theme park in Yongin, Gyeonggi Province.

Students of the school said they were on a field trip Friday and she beat the student for being more than 20 minutes late.

They said they also saw her kicking the boy�s private parts.

The pupils shot the clip and posted it on the Internet.

A school official said the teacher visited the student�s home and apologized to his parents on Saturday.

The school and the district educational office said they are investigating the incident.

They said they will decide whether to punish the teacher depending on the outcome of the inquiry.

Many bloggers posted comments criticizing the teacher, saying the beating was not corporal punishment but amounted to assault.



Watch it for yourself- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwRk3rpciB0
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Zackback



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFqkF24l5tM&feature=related

From a better angle.
Was this kid wearing a cup?

Anyway I thought students can't be hit anymore?
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conrad2



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The teacher kicked him in the groin area four times. She needs to be criminally prosecuted.
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Swampfox10mm



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you want to bet they will consider the publicity to be punishment enough for the teacher and just let her off? Maybe ride a desk for a semester?

Honestly, I'm in favor of corporal punishment in schools, but within reason. My fears are that, within 10 years, the kids will become just like overseas kids and lack any respect.
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swampfox10mm wrote:
What do you want to bet they will consider the publicity to be punishment enough for the teacher and just let her off? Maybe ride a desk for a semester?

Honestly, I'm in favor of corporal punishment in schools, but within reason. My fears are that, within 10 years, the kids will become just like overseas kids and lack any respect.


Agreed. Kids today back home are too disrespectful and have no fear of authority and punishment. It's why there are so many 20 something troublemakers today. (Not any of you here, but a certain element back home that hover into groups and make trouble and violence.) Some corporal punishment will do a kid good. But what this teacher did crosses the line. It is assault. Being 20 minutes late for a field trip ought to be punished by some other sanction than corporal punishment anyways. CP ought to be used more for vandalism, fighting, mounthing off teachers. I don't approve of CP for failing a test or being late. That's what detention needs to be for. The punishment doesn't fit the crime.
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Slowmotion



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swampfox10mm wrote:
Honestly, I'm in favor of corporal punishment in schools, but within reason. My fears are that, within 10 years, the kids will become just like overseas kids and lack any respect.

I agree, but this teacher crossed the line with groin kicking. wtf
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
Swampfox10mm wrote:
What do you want to bet they will consider the publicity to be punishment enough for the teacher and just let her off? Maybe ride a desk for a semester?

Honestly, I'm in favor of corporal punishment in schools, but within reason. My fears are that, within 10 years, the kids will become just like overseas kids and lack any respect.


Agreed. Kids today back home are too disrespectful and have no fear of authority and punishment. It's why there are so many 20 something troublemakers today. (Not any of you here, but a certain element back home that hover into groups and make trouble and violence.) Some corporal punishment will do a kid good. But what this teacher did crosses the line. It is assault. Being 20 minutes late for a field trip ought to be punished by some other sanction than corporal punishment anyways. CP ought to be used more for vandalism, fighting, mounthing off teachers. I don't approve of CP for failing a test or being late. That's what detention needs to be for. The punishment doesn't fit the crime.


I went to high school in UK before the corporal punishment ban in 1986......believe me, corporal punishment is not the way.

The really out of control kids who are intent on making trouble did not fear corporal punishment or the teachers. They would get hammered every day with heavy leather straps on the hands until their hands were red raw, but would be just breaking the rules again 5 minutes later. It doesn't work. I saw (and still see) it as something the lazy and unimaginative teachers used because they didn't know what else to do. So each and every day the same cycle of strapping hands (and worse) would continue.
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seoulsucker



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think she should be fired simply for being stupid enough for doing that in front of a few buses full of middle schoolers, all equipped with smart phones capable of recording and instantly uploading video.
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sadguy



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the groin kicking was bad man...
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Ramen



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sadguy wrote:
the groin kicking was bad man...


maybe he deserved it. you know how crazy some(a few) middle schoolers are.... but not in front of students with smartphones. Razz
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The Great Toad



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMTXnf7mnZI


I still like this one better - of course the student is hit too much even for Korea maybe - but you have to admit it does have a Tom And Jerry element to it - like "I block high!" "ha ha I now hit low!" I wonder what happened to that guy... at least he did not hit the poor kid in his ummm mid-area of a sort...


Hmmm the kick in the place you want to save for the wife... and also slaps to the face the place where you have the self image is bad bad bad - it would have been better had she just got a weapon and hit him on his quads - or maybe shoulder.... then again yes she could have done some other punishment that would have been public like make him skip a public dinner and plain food alone or some other form of punishment... that was missing a reward or taking up his fun trip time.....

still when you think about how they make the teaher/homeroom teacher almost like a parent - the ploice wil call the kids homeroom teacher when he is in trouble - the teacher seems to punish a lot like a parent too - and most Korean parents do hit their kids I'd bet....

But yes the kick - wow - never saw that before in Korean school - slaps in the face / fist to head raps / finger, palm, forefoot stick smacks yes.... but never a groin kick- that would have been better drama in the house....

Female teacher, "Forgive me I was angry and I was not thinking when I kicked him in his future child creation tools."
Parents , "Oh no problem we rather our other son have children first."
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Chokse



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The kid was 20 minutes late for the bus.

I agree that corporal punishment by the teacher was not the best method to use in this situation (though I do think it has its place).

In this situation, the teacher should have just left without the kid. Let the kid call his parents, explain that he was late for the bus, and make the parents come to Everland to pick him up.

Heck, he would probably still get beaten, but by his parents rather than the teacher.
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Zoisite



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

conrad2 wrote:
The teacher kicked him in the groin area four times. She needs to be criminally prosecuted.


his hands were in the way... I think it was more in the lower stomach though. It was also not life threatening, it just looked bad.
But I still don't think that's right.

You change a cultural system that allows hitting kids as their main form of discipline overnight...what do you expect them to do now? Some teachers may not be well trained in disciplining kids without hitting them, and some students may not see it as discipline if they aren't disciplined any other way.
From being here, I have noticed that students do try to take advance of the 'no-hitting' rule.

But you can't really judge.
Also the teacher's role in Korean society is more similar to a parent than someone teaching as a job in western society (mind you there are exceptions). Respect towards teachers is often regarded much higher as well.

I bet most of your parents got beat from teachers/parents as a kid (still, maybe not as hard as that kid)... most of them turned out alright, didn't they?

A little old school discipline probably set the kid straight though that's for sure. He WON'T be late again....probably for the rest of his life.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zoisite wrote:


A little old school discipline probably set the kid straight though that's for sure. He WON'T be late again....probably for the rest of his life.


because physical punishement always equal eternal compliance?


pffffffffffffffftttt


Imagine being the parent of that kid and seeing someone beat them. Evil or Very Mad
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Zoisite"]
conrad2 wrote:


A little old school discipline probably set the kid straight though that's for sure. He WON'T be late again....probably for the rest of his life.


Totally wrong.

What he learns about being late from this incident will be totally overshadowed by the memory of his brutal treatment at the hands of a teacher. He could well develop a hatred of this teacher and likely other teachers who also physically punish him. Then his academic potential will no doubt suffer.

Hitting kids does not result in good behaviour.......all research into the topic has shown this.
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