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Arthur Fonzerelli
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Location: Suwon
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 Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:06 pm Post subject: Why does USFK need ROK soldiers to guard the Army bases? |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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It makes perfect sense to me and I think the reasons are so obvious that they don't require an explanation.
Am I wrong? |
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Arthur Fonzerelli
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Location: Suwon
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| Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
It makes perfect sense to me and I think the reasons are so obvious that they don't require an explanation.
Am I wrong? |
yes, you are wrong..at least to me..
can you explain further? |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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You're talking about the soldiers at the gates, right? There are always Korean and US soldiers as far as I have seen (although the US soldiers might be the desk jockeys in the gatehouse or whatever).
Q: They are there to keep out who, exactly?
A: Unauthorized personnel.
Q: And in Korea, unauthorized personnel are most likely to be?
A: Koreans.
Q: And who is best-equipped to deal Koreans?
A: Other Koreans.
Do I really need to explain more? |
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Arthur Fonzerelli
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Location: Suwon
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| Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
You're talking about the soldiers at the gates, right? There are always Korean and US soldiers as far as I have seen (although the US soldiers might be the desk jockeys in the gatehouse or whatever).
Q: They are there to keep out who, exactly?
A: Unauthorized personnel.
Q: And in Korea, unauthorized personnel are most likely to be?
A: Koreans.
Q: And who is best-equipped to deal Koreans?
A: Other Koreans.
Do I really need to explain more? |
Q: Are USFK soldiers afraid of confronting locals?
A: ????
Q: Why are there so freaking many ROK soldiers guarding American bases?
A: ???? |
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The Hammer
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m
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| Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Bulsajo,
Nice post! I enjoy it when the voice of reason prevails.
Cheers,
The Hammer  |
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Phoenix
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Q: Are USFK soldiers afraid of confronting locals?
A: ???? |
A more suitable question would be:
Q: Are USFK soldiers equipped to converse with locals in their native languge?
A: Given the relative short tour most soldiers spend in Korea, no.
Q: What would be the best solution?
A: Posting Koreans at the gate.
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Q: Why are there so freaking many ROK soldiers guarding American bases?
A: ???? |
By "guard" here I think you are referring to the police rather than soldiers who are dotted along the length of the perimiter walls of camps.
They are there to stop civil disturbances from locals, not to "guard" the base. |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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And it's not like there's never been a civil disturbance at a USFK base.
Who can blame the Americans? During those confrontations between student activists and the base guards, which would be more inflammatory on the MBC news, photos of a Korean mob fighting a fellow Korean, or a Korean mob fighting an armed US soldier?
If Fonz wants to define cowardice, perhaps he'd like to take a stab at the Koreans in and out of government who publicly raged against the American presence, but when push came to shove, quietly and privately begged the Americans to stay.
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Q: Are USFK soldiers afraid of confronting locals?
A: ???? |
What kind of a bull-headed machismo question is that? Honestly... 
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Q: Why are there so freaking many ROK soldiers guarding American bases?
A: ???? |
Why are there so many Korean riot police at demonstrations?
Beats me, but probably for the same reasons.
It strikes me as funny how you seem to view this issue as an American problem rather than a Korean one. |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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The more pertinent question is why you are such a putzy, potsie.
HTH |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: Why does USFK need ROK soldiers to guard the Army bases? |
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| Arthur Fonzerelli wrote: |
| seems rather cowardly. |
Why does USFK need ROK soldiers to guard the army bases? Maybe because the army is off elsewhere standing guard against the North?  |
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phaedrus
Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: I'm comin' to get ya.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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It's the language thing.
Plus, if the Korean police have to put the beats to someone at least it wasn't an American puttin' the beats to a Korean. |
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The Cube
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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J.B. Clamence
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Yes, another example of the America's Catch-22:
If American soldiers guard the gates, people will complain that the U.S. military are bullies for putting its soldiers out in Korean streets, telling Koreans where they can or can't walk.
If America passes responsibility for this to the Korean government (as they should), you get this:
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It just goes to show what I've been saying for a long time: Some people are just out to bash the U.S. for any reason without even thinking about it, and given these catch-22 dilemmas, there's nothing that will ever please these people, so what do you want? |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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It��s about sovereignty, kids. American soldiers don��t have legal authority to take action against Korean citizens on Korean soil. In fact, in absence of hostilities from the North, they can��t do F-all on Korean soil without a Korean representative along to give permission and oversee what they are doing. If it were otherwise, then we would actually be an occupying force to exactly the degree that the Korean protesters are protesting we are.
Ever notice the MPs in Itaewon are just about always – every time I��ve seen them, anyway – in groups of three, and one of them is Korean? It��s not a language thing, since they are there to police rowdy American servicemen. No, the Korean is there to give them legal authority to do anything at all.
Oh, and Clemens, I think Fonz has stated elsewhere he is an American, and some kind of Republican at that. |
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