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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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I'm planning on reinstalling my work comp's OS to Windows 7, then restricting access to IE/only allowing it to be run on a VM, plus having it scheduled to make weekly disk images.
I left it unattended over a weekend and I came back on the Monday to find it chock full of Korean spyware/bloatware, now seriously...  |
We had that problem but solved it instantly by creating two login accounts in windows. One Admin account with full priviledges, protected by a password, and a Student login acct not allowed to install or modify programs. Very simple to do, and we also have no malware or virus issues because I dumped Ahn V3 and use Avast. I run Malwarebytes from the admin acct every few months, but it never finds anything. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Don't all versions of IE support ActiveX controls?
My wife is using IE9 on her Windows 7 laptop and she seems to be able to do banking and online shopping just fine. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC
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| Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
Don't all versions of IE support ActiveX controls?
My wife is using IE9 on her Windows 7 laptop and she seems to be able to do banking and online shopping just fine. |
Yes, but not all security programs will run under W7. My wife has to use our old XP machine for her Shinhan Card program. It absolutely refuses to run under W7. That just means she doesn't use it as much since that old POS is too slow to start up. It's like a helper for me! |
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Chokse
Joined: 22 May 2009
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| Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, my wife has a Win 7 machine with IE 9 and she has a lot of trouble with several Korean websites. She can't even download updated maps for our navigation unit because it requires XP in order to download.
I'm a Mac guy but I do see the vast improvements in Win 7 and would call it a solid and modern OS (though I still don't care for IE in any version). I'm still not going to switch to Windows, but no matter, the same cannot be said for XP or IE6. Both are crap software and should be banned from all computers ASAP, and that goes for ActiveX as well.
Hopefully Microsoft's new campaign to rid the world of IE6 will work and Korea will be forced, kicking and screaming, into the modern world of computers. This will be the first time in my life I'll be rooting for Microsoft! |
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hogwonguy1979
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 12:29 am Post subject: |
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| Chokse wrote: |
Yeah, my wife has a Win 7 machine with IE 9 and she has a lot of trouble with several Korean websites. She can't even download updated maps for our navigation unit because it requires XP in order to download.
I'm a Mac guy but I do see the vast improvements in Win 7 and would call it a solid and modern OS (though I still don't care for IE in any version). I'm still not going to switch to Windows, but no matter, the same cannot be said for XP or IE6. Both are crap software and should be banned from all computers ASAP, and that goes for ActiveX as well.
Hopefully Microsoft's new campaign to rid the world of IE6 will work and Korea will be forced, kicking and screaming, into the modern world of computers. This will be the first time in my life I'll be rooting for Microsoft! |
i'm also having all sorts of problems opening my samsung card bill in ie9, on other korean sites i'm forced to use the 32 bit version of ie and that still doesnt work all the time. i'm lucky i still have a computer running xp and an old version of ie.
why cant koreans pull their heads out their behinds and move into the modern world with this stuff, heck cambodia in some ways is more advanced than korea on this |
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Chokse
Joined: 22 May 2009
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Let's not forget that Cambodia had smartphones before Korea did. Last time I was there in summer 2008, I saw lots of shops in Cambodia (Laos and Vietnam as well) selling iPhones. Meanwhile, Korea didn't get the iPhone (or any smartphone) until nearly 2 years later!
It was kind of pathetic that a farmer in Cambodia could have a better phone than the richest businessman in Korea!
I also remember that WiFi and Bluetooth were really slow to get started over here.
It about sums up how slowly this country adopts new technology. |
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Caffeinated
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| Chokse wrote: |
| It was kind of pathetic that a farmer in Cambodia could have a better phone than the richest businessman in Korea! |
The richest businessman in Korea would rather have Koreans buy the phones his chaebol is making. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 2:08 am Post subject: |
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| Caffeinated wrote: |
| Chokse wrote: |
| It was kind of pathetic that a farmer in Cambodia could have a better phone than the richest businessman in Korea! |
The richest businessman in Korea would rather have Koreans buy the phones his chaebol is making. |
And buying the software his programmers are writing, only good for the one browser they know how write for. Not to mention, all the spamware written for, you guessed it, IE6.
No, even if Microsoft completely abandons IE6, Korea will continue to use it. Just look at it like the computer equivalent of the Iranian military's F-14s. |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 4:35 am Post subject: |
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| My wife uses the IE extension tab for Chrome for banking/shopping. It works 90% of the time. |
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jonpurdy
Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| I use Korean sites on my Mac in a dedicated VM running XP SP3 and IE7. I've got an SSD so the VM boots in a couple of seconds. And I don't have to worry about all those damn ActiveX plugins messing up my work system. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Windows IE 8 is barely supported by Korean sites. We are still on 7 with my wife's machine because too many of her sites can handle no higher. Cannot imagine why anyone would run IE9 yet. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Coincidentally, and surprisingly, a memo has just been sent out in my school encouraging all the staff to upgrade their IE to IE8!
And, even more surprisingly, to encourage private browsing using Chrome or Firefox!!! Maybe at least some Koreans can see past IE.
Very tellingly though, this memo did not come from the IT department, who are firmly in 2005 tech-wise. |
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nstick13
Joined: 02 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Turns out the dynamism in Korea doesn't relate to anything meaningful. Just to having your timetable instantly doubled, and a school dinner added that night. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:55 am Post subject: |
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Banning ActiveX was first proposed during the previous government administration. It doesn't seem like companies would want to get rid of ActiveX.
When I worked for a small school in Anseong, Gyeonggi-do, those idiotic teachers preached me the wisdoms of IE6. I literally puked. The 4th grade teacher who was also the tech manager of this school was shocked from the fact that open source softwares exist.
Don't forget. South Korea still uses old school BBS systems from the mid 1990s. RRS is still used for government-level internet surveillance.
Japan has this similar situation. Ignoring the UTF-8 standard in fonts. There used to be a huge usage of old Java applets and HTML3 websites in Japan but they're actively gone thanks to chan boards and reputable blog services.
Let's think about this in a different light. There's a bigger problem (perhaps bigger than ActiveX) in both Korea and Japan. Too many Flash installations on the websites. |
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Adam Carolla
Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
Coincidentally, and surprisingly, a memo has just been sent out in my school encouraging all the staff to upgrade their IE to IE8!
And, even more surprisingly, to encourage private browsing using Chrome or Firefox!!! Maybe at least some Koreans can see past IE.
Very tellingly though, this memo did not come from the IT department, who are firmly in 2005 tech-wise. |
Those IT guys are the biggest oxygen thieves on the planet.
Here's my story: I was the head teacher at my last school, and we had a large staff room wherein was located my computer, and next to that the staffroom secretary's computer. Well, about every 2-3 months, the secretary's computer would crash spectacularly to the point where it wouldn't even boot. Being relatively handy with Windows, I occasionally ran virus scans and attempted to download updates. Well, for whatever reason, the heavily hacked version of XP they were installing over and over again had updates disabled.
At some point, I had decided enough was enough. When the IT guy came in to re-install Windows yet again, I had one of the K-teachers ask him very nicely to allow Windows update to run. He replied that it wouldn't prevent any viruses. He further said that because the secretary's computer was being used by foreigners that that was where the viruses came from. This, despite the fact that he'd never had to work on a single foreign teacher's computer in a year.
I told him to enable windows update, period. He did so reluctantly, and, surprise surprise, with those security holes patched, the computer worked fine for 6 months (when my knowledge of the situation ended.) |
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