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suzhou2010
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 Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:30 am Post subject: Has anyone added a second employer since the new rules? |
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Since January its easier to add a second employer, as we only need permission from our current school and not immigration. Has anyone gone through the process?
I'm asking because I need permission for one month of employment during the summer, and my director at a university said she would allow me. However, going to higher level administration is a bit of a hassle.
So I was wondering for anyone who has gotten permission from your current employer, is there a simple form that needs a signature from someone at your current school? If there is, do you know if it has to be one specific person who signs that permission form (say, the person who signed the original contract) or can it be signed by anyone in a position of power at the school?
Thank you . . . |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 3:31 am Post subject: Re: Has anyone added a second employer since the new rules? |
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| suzhou2010 wrote: |
Since January its easier to add a second employer, as we only need permission from our current school and not immigration. Has anyone gone through the process?
I'm asking because I need permission for one month of employment during the summer, and my director at a university said she would allow me. However, going to higher level administration is a bit of a hassle.
So I was wondering for anyone who has gotten permission from your current employer, is there a simple form that needs a signature from someone at your current school? If there is, do you know if it has to be one specific person who signs that permission form (say, the person who signed the original contract) or can it be signed by anyone in a position of power at the school?
Thank you . . . |
You need your employer to fill out forms and these forms need to be registered with immigration (unless this has also been changed).
From what I know (could be wrong) your supervisor is the one who needs to sign the forms. In your case (University) this could be the departement head or perhaps (unigown) the director. |
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suzhou2010
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 4:44 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the reply, hopefully it is just the director and not the same person who signed the original contract!
Cheers
Oh . . and as you mentioned, from what I understand with the new law, I don't need permission from immigration, I just need to report to them within two weeks of starting the second job. |
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PatrickGHBusan
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the reply, hopefully it is just the director and not the same person who signed the original contract!
Cheers
Oh . . and as you mentioned, from what I understand with the new law, I don't need permission from immigration, I just need to report to them within two weeks of starting the second job. |
It needs to be registred with immigration. Permission from them is not needed but the second location still needs to meet the requirements of your visa. |
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Swampfox10mm
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I guarentee you this rule wasn't made so E-2 teachers could go out and bank a lot of cash. It's been crafted so that your boss can farm you out while you make a bare minimum in the process.
I'm sorry, but it's not, and never was meant to be, a windfall for teachers. |
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nw25th
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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I guarentee you this rule wasn't made so E-2 teachers could go out and bank a lot of cash. It's been crafted so that your boss can farm you out while you make a bare minimum in the process.
I'm sorry, but it's not, and never was meant to be, a windfall for teachers. |
HATERS GONNA HATE!
Super easy now. Sign your new contract, and then get your place of employment to sign a letter stating they allow you to work _______. Go to immigration, they print a stamp for free, and it's over.
I've done it twice since Jan.... |
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Castaway
Joined: 10 May 2011
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Does that mean there are no official forms to print?
You simply get a letter from your employer? |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:08 am Post subject: Re: Has anyone added a second employer since the new rules? |
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| suzhou2010 wrote: |
Since January its easier to add a second employer, as we only need permission from our current school and not immigration. Has anyone gone through the process?
I'm asking because I need permission for one month of employment during the summer, and my director at a university said she would allow me. However, going to higher level administration is a bit of a hassle.
So I was wondering for anyone who has gotten permission from your current employer, is there a simple form that needs a signature from someone at your current school? If there is, do you know if it has to be one specific person who signs that permission form (say, the person who signed the original contract) or can it be signed by anyone in a position of power at the school?
Thank you . . . |
As I understand it that is not quite accurate. You can work at a second location without having to register with Immigration IF that second location is also owned by the same employer. But if you want to work for a different employer then you still need to jump through the immigration hoops. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:56 am Post subject: |
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I've recently gotten a second workplace sticker in my passport for teaching on a Korean army base in addition to my epik job. Sorry, not sure who had to sign which form exactly (I let the desk jockeys handle that) but if both hiring parties are legitimate & amenable it seems pretty straightforward.
The two-week lag is real. I started my extra teaching exactly two weeks before it needed to be formalized. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:33 am Post subject: |
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| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
I guarentee you this rule wasn't made so E-2 teachers could go out and bank a lot of cash. It's been crafted so that your boss can farm you out while you make a bare minimum in the process.
I'm sorry, but it's not, and never was meant to be, a windfall for teachers. |
HATERS GONNA HATE!
Super easy now. Sign your new contract, and then get your place of employment to sign a letter stating they allow you to work _______. Go to immigration, they print a stamp for free, and it's over.
I've done it twice since Jan.... |
?? You're implying what? That I am jealous or upset over this?
Hardly.
Reality is, there aren't a lot of Korean employers who like the idea of letting their property work elsewhere unless they have their fingers in the pie. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
I guarentee you this rule wasn't made so E-2 teachers could go out and bank a lot of cash. It's been crafted so that your boss can farm you out while you make a bare minimum in the process.
I'm sorry, but it's not, and never was meant to be, a windfall for teachers. |
HATERS GONNA HATE!
Super easy now. Sign your new contract, and then get your place of employment to sign a letter stating they allow you to work _______. Go to immigration, they print a stamp for free, and it's over.
I've done it twice since Jan.... |
?? You're implying what? That I am jealous or upset over this?
Hardly.
Reality is, there aren't a lot of Korean employers who like the idea of letting their property work elsewhere unless they have their fingers in the pie. |
While I agree with the spirit of what you say there swamp, I really deplore your use of the word property. That helps no one and warps the potential debate with inflamatory comments.
No one is owned by anyone here. Teachers are SPONSORED by an employer like any foreign worker anywhere would be. The employer by SPONSORING a Teacher also becomes RESPONSIBLEA for the teacher in the legal sense, much like the SPONSORED EMPLOYEE has visa obligation. This is an agreement not a deed of property.
You can ALWAYS quite and seek other employment.
Why not keep the discussion level?
The second work location revision was done in a way to make it easier for employers to assign their employers to more than one location in their company. However, it also eases the process for teachers who wish to work a part-time second location.
At the end of the day, Foreign Teachers are still sponsored employees whose only right to teach in Korea comes from having been vouched for by a local employer and as a result being issued a proper work visa. This all too often gets lost in the debate as some people seem to expect the same rights and freedoms of employment they had as citizens back home. Furthermore and as a final point, the "property/slave labor" rethoric is used far too often to qualify what in actuality is an employment situation. |
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Swampfox10mm
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:35 am Post subject: |
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Patrick, I agree with you and what you've said, but far too many employers want to think of us as property, and apparently haven't gotten over the slave fetish thing.
Yes, it's wrong, sounds bad, etc.. No disagreement there. And yes, you can go find work elsewhere (although that requires a lot more legwork, travel, and expense these days). You still have to cowtow to immigration and toe the line in certain respects to do this, as I understand it, too.
Wasn't said to incite anger. That's just the reality of the world that I see out there in good ol' Korea. It's just something I see as a reality that I try to avoid. It affects F-2's as well, when it comes to controls over outside work in contracts. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:20 am Post subject: |
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| What you are discussing then is not Korea-centric. It is an age old Employer/Employee dynamic. |
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