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Bruce Springsteen and Bon Jovi are actually farmers

 
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madoka



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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:18 pm    Post subject: Bruce Springsteen and Bon Jovi are actually farmers Reply with quote

Bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen have been making hit music for years and its no surprise that they've earned enough money to buy big mansions with acres of property, but what might surprise you is the huge tax breaks they, and others, are getting.

It turns out, as far as New Jersey tax collectors are concerned, that they are farmers.

Almost a million acres in New Jersey are certified as farmland. Owners who own at least five acres, practice some kind of agriculture, or manage the trees on their property and sell $500 worth of goods a year qualify for a significant tax break.

They do have to pay the full taxes on their homes, and non-farm property.

Through a trust, Bruce Springsteen owns more than 200 acres in Colts Neck. the taxes for his house and three acres are more than $138,000. But because of the farm tax break, the tax bill on a little more than 200 additional acres is less than $5,000. Town officials say he has horses and an organic farmer working some of the land. A lawyer for the trust had no comment.

In another part of Monmouth County, Bon Jovi has and estate on the Navesink River. Taxes on the mansion and some property add up to $295,68 but his tax bill on an additional 6.85 aces is $104 because he raises honeybees.

A spokesman for Bon Jovi issued a statement saying, "Jon is scrupulous about paying his fair share of taxes. The exemption for raising honey bees existed long before he purchased that land, and he continues to employ a beekeeper and raise honeybees..."

Max Weinberg, E-Street Band drummer, and former band leader on Late Night With Conan O'Brien owns 36 heavily wooded acres near Bon Jovi. Taxes on his home and two acres are $49,068. But the tax bill for the additional 34 acres is $122 because he sells wood.

Read the rest here:

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/investigative/farm-tax-breaks-for-nj-celebrities-20110209
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CtotheB



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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rich stay rich.
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the problem here?

New Jersey wants to preserve the farmland rather than give it all over to residential/commercial/industrial uses. Hence the property tax breaks.

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But many say these tax breaks help preserve New Jersey open space and limit development. And Middletown manager Tony Mercantante thinks that can be a good thing.

Merchantante says, "Farming certainly is an activity that the state's been looking to preserve to the extend possible and farmland assessment has allowed farmers to survive."


The solution is to follow New York and amend the laws.

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New York State has a tougher standard. It requires land owners sell $10,000 worth of goods for the farming exemption. That's a dramatic contrast with New Jersey's $500 in sales.
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madoka



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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
What's the problem here?


The problem is that you have someone like Bon Jovi, who made 125 million dollars last year alone, using a loophole to get out of paying his fair share of taxes. It's shameless.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm more astonished at a washed-up Bon Jovi making $125 million last year.

To New Jersey: Real farmers don't make $125 million in a year!
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madoka



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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Underwaterbob wrote:
I'm more astonished at a washed-up Bon Jovi making $125 million last year.


Fortunately for Bon Jovi, audiences in real arenas around the world are kinder. His eponymous band took home $125 million over the past 12 months by FORBES' estimates, more than any other music act besides U2--and more than relative whippersnappers Justin Bieber, Katy Perry and Kanye West combined. In the past year the band has played 74 gigs in 15 nations, grossing $203 million in ticket sales and $20 million in merchandise; Bon Jovi ranks No. 8 on this year's Celebrity 100.

Surprised? Bon Jovi out-earns younger, glitzier acts thanks to a relatively affluent, aging fan base who turn out to hear the ballads of their youth and see a tightly run touring machine built on decades of experience.

"They're one of the highest-grossing bands every year," says veteran concert promoter Ron Delsener. "Jon is a workaholic, constantly touring, constantly making loads of money.".

Whereas Lady Gaga schleps dozens of dancers from town to town and needs 28 trucks to cart her equipment, Bon Jovi typically plays with six people. A dozen trucks carry the gear, including a circular stage and 192 double-sided LED video screens connected with a specially designed motion control system, which allows them to come together to form a screen 13 feet high and 40 feet wide. At arenas like Montreal's 21,500-capacity Bell Center, the in-theround setup lets the band sell up to 5,500 more tickets than a traditional arena stage would. Wherever possible Bon Jovi plays consecutive nights at the same venue to cut back on setup and strike costs. By playing 12 shows in 19 days at London's O2 arena the band saved $300,000..

"It wasn't some conscious decision to be penny-pinching. I think it's just wise to be efficient," says Bon Jovi. "I know big bands where each of them has personal assistants on the road, each of them has a security guard. We don't have a security guard. Take your own friggin' bags!".
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
Kuros wrote:
What's the problem here?


The problem is that you have someone like Bon Jovi, who made 125 million dollars last year alone, using a loophole to get out of paying his fair share of taxes. It's shameless.


Yes, Bon Jovi hires an accountant. Thus, he pays his fair share of taxes, which happens to be less than what you think he should pay, but precisely what the New Jersey tax code allows him to pay.

underwaterbob wrote:
To New Jersey: Real farmers don't make $125 million in a year!


No they don't but who do you think owns the expensive land on which "real farmers" work in New Jersey?
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TECO



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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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$295,68


Is that $295, 680 a year in taxes? I can't believe taxes are that high.
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PeteMoses



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off, that's property tax and not income tax. I don't think that a tax break for responsible use of land is anything to complain about.

Also, I think Bruce has a stables at his farm, his daughter is a professional event rider.

And I think that cost of that land far outweighs any income they receive off it for selling firewood or raising horses. I'd say it's a pretty responisble way of using their capital.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Communism is way better.
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