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Artris
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 Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:40 pm Post subject: Contract ends on a Sunday. Flying home Friday night OK? |
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My contract ends on a Sunday and I don't work Saturdays. I work for a public school in GEPIK. Seems like an odd question, but is there any reason to be worried about flying out Friday night even though technically I'm employed until the following Sunday?
I'm mostly concerned about severance pay. I talked to the school and they seem fine with it. Logically if I were to say, fly to Japan for the weekend, I would still be within my contract were it not the end of the contract. |
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OculisOrbis
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:56 am Post subject: |
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| If you want to be sure to get your severance, leave when your contract is FINISHED. Is two extra days at home worth 2+ million won + your airfare? I dont think so, but if you like to gamble - and dont mind losing - leave two days early...... |
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jackson7
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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This should be a non-issue. You should certainly receive your final pay before that Friday, or on that day at the latest. This should include your severance, deposit refund (if paid), and anything else coming to you. You should also be applying for your pension refund (if you're from a reciprocating nation) as soon as you have your flight booked and within three months or so of departing. Nice to have your ducks in a row before you get on that flight back home...
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:17 am Post subject: |
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Not that I object, but do you have documents or information to support this? |
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OculisOrbis
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:37 am Post subject: |
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| jackson7 wrote: |
This should be a non-issue. You should certainly receive your final pay before that Friday, or on that day at the latest. This should include your severance, deposit refund (if paid), and anything else coming to you. You should also be applying for your pension refund (if you're from a reciprocating nation) as soon as you have your flight booked and within three months or so of departing. Nice to have your ducks in a row before you get on that flight back home...
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An employer has 14 days to pay any money owed. After that, you can file a labor board claim. It's in the the Labor Standards Act.
Don't leave early. If you leave early, your employer can say that you did not complete the contract - and they can prove it since you werent in the country for the last two days of your contract. They can save by not paying your airfare, severance and two days salary. |
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sojusucks
Joined: 31 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| OculisOrbis wrote: |
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This should be a non-issue. You should certainly receive your final pay before that Friday, or on that day at the latest. This should include your severance, deposit refund (if paid), and anything else coming to you. You should also be applying for your pension refund (if you're from a reciprocating nation) as soon as you have your flight booked and within three months or so of departing. Nice to have your ducks in a row before you get on that flight back home...
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An employer has 14 days to pay any money owed. After that, you can file a labor board claim. It's in the the Labor Standards Act.
Don't leave early. If you leave early, your employer can say that you did not complete the contract - and they can prove it since you werent in the country for the last two days of your contract. They can save by not paying your airfare, severance and two days salary. |
Agreed, especially over 2-3 days. Better safe than sorry. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| OculisOrbis wrote: |
| jackson7 wrote: |
This should be a non-issue. You should certainly receive your final pay before that Friday, or on that day at the latest. This should include your severance, deposit refund (if paid), and anything else coming to you. You should also be applying for your pension refund (if you're from a reciprocating nation) as soon as you have your flight booked and within three months or so of departing. Nice to have your ducks in a row before you get on that flight back home...
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An employer has 14 days to pay any money owed. After that, you can file a labor board claim. It's in the the Labor Standards Act.
Don't leave early. If you leave early, your employer can say that you did not complete the contract - and they can prove it since you werent in the country for the last two days of your contract. They can save by not paying your airfare, severance and two days salary. |
It's a public school, Oculis. Not a hagwon. He's not going to be in school those days anyway. And since hypothetically, his ARC would expire the day his contract ends (mine will), wouldn't he have to get severance and pension lined up by that Friday?
(And yes, I know you can extend your ARC when you present a plane ticket to immi, but is that necessary?)
When I filled out my paperwork for severance at the end of my first year, it was before the contract ended. |
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OculisOrbis
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 1:19 am Post subject: |
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Doesnt matter where he works - if he wants to be sure he gets the money, stay the two extra days and complete the year. Leaving two days early opens up the employer to withhold the severance, airfare and any days missed - legally.
It's two days that they agreed to and signed a contract for - they are not extra days, but part of the initial obligation, why would you leave 2 days early and risk losing millions of won?
And as I said before, an employer has 14 days to pay money owed - public schools included. Ideally, the money would be in your hand the day you leave, but what if you plan for that, book the ticket and then your schools says the money will be paid after you leave?.....
Repeated again: If you like to gamble and dont mind losing, leave early.........l prefer the extra few thousand dollars to be guaranteed.
You can leave two days early and file a labor board claim from outside korea if they dont pay, but what is the point if you left early and are going to lose anyway? |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:07 am Post subject: |
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| OculisOrbis wrote: |
Doesnt matter where he works - if he wants to be sure he gets the money, stay the two extra days and complete the year. Leaving two days early opens up the employer to withhold the severance, airfare and any days missed - legally.
It's two days that they agreed to and signed a contract for - they are not extra days, but part of the initial obligation, why would you leave 2 days early and risk losing millions of won?
And as I said before, an employer has 14 days to pay money owed - public schools included. Ideally, the money would be in your hand the day you leave, but what if you plan for that, book the ticket and then your schools says the money will be paid after you leave?.....
Repeated again: If you like to gamble and dont mind losing, leave early.........l prefer the extra few thousand dollars to be guaranteed.
You can leave two days early and file a labor board claim from outside korea if they dont pay, but what is the point if you left early and are going to lose anyway? |
? But it doesn't sound like he's at odds with his school.
But fair enough. You're recommending we all extend our ARCs 14 days to make sure we get our money? This is just for severance, right? I thought pension we don't get until after we leave anyway (I know you file before you leave). |
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hallazgo
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| Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| Mine ended on a Saturday and I was paid in full on Friday. But that by NO means is a guarantee that all schools will do you that nicely. Hope you didn't pay for the plane ticket yet or its flexible. Murphy's Law is very much at work in this land |
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OculisOrbis
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:39 am Post subject: |
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| isitts wrote: |
| OculisOrbis wrote: |
Doesnt matter where he works - if he wants to be sure he gets the money, stay the two extra days and complete the year. Leaving two days early opens up the employer to withhold the severance, airfare and any days missed - legally.
It's two days that they agreed to and signed a contract for - they are not extra days, but part of the initial obligation, why would you leave 2 days early and risk losing millions of won?
And as I said before, an employer has 14 days to pay money owed - public schools included. Ideally, the money would be in your hand the day you leave, but what if you plan for that, book the ticket and then your schools says the money will be paid after you leave?.....
Repeated again: If you like to gamble and dont mind losing, leave early.........l prefer the extra few thousand dollars to be guaranteed.
You can leave two days early and file a labor board claim from outside korea if they dont pay, but what is the point if you left early and are going to lose anyway? |
? But it doesn't sound like he's at odds with his school.
But fair enough. You're recommending we all extend our ARCs 14 days to make sure we get our money? This is just for severance, right? I thought pension we don't get until after we leave anyway (I know you file before you leave). |
I'm recommending that he stays in the country for the 365 days he agreed to in his contract. He wont have to extend his vis or stay any days past one year. If he does that, and his school doesnt pay, he can file a labor claim from outside korea and get his money - without staying one day extra. You can apply for pension up to 30 days before you leave if you have an outgoing plane ticket. Once the pension office confirms you have finished your job and left the country, they will deposit the money to whatever account you provided the info for ---- all without staying more than a single day past the 365 days required to qualify for severance and airfare.
I'm recommending the no-risk strategy for guaranteeing that you are eligible for your money. Other options may work, but you can lose simply because you didnt complete the MINIMUM LEGAL requirements. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:52 am Post subject: |
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| I'd stay. Chill out with your friends for a nice last weekend, then leave. It's not worth the risk of losing out on severance and airfare. |
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