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"Green" Culture & Vegetarianism in Korea
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coffeeman



Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 7:38 am    Post subject: "Green" Culture & Vegetarianism in Korea Reply with quote

I was just wondering if either green culture or vegetarianism have taken root in Korea?

What I mean by green culture are things like
- Reusable coffee mugs and shopping bags
- Products made from recycled materials
- Green roofing or the planting of trees around the city to suck up CO2 emissions.
- investment in solar panels or wind energy.

Vegetarianism
I add this topic because vegetarianism is gaining popularity in the west. Not so much for animal issues (I feel), but for personal health.

One does not have to be vegetarian all the time, but it would be nice if the vegetarian option were there - particularly in Korean restaurants.

I imagine Korea, along with most other Asian countries, still find vegetarianism to be a weird way of life from the west - like jogging. Laughing
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West Coast Tatterdemalion



Joined: 31 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, vegetarianism is still considered strange in Korea Rolling Eyes . But they better get used to it because it is the way of the future. As far as caring what they think, I gave up caring what Koreans thought of me a long, long time ago. Their opinion isn't relevant. Get strength from within.
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NSMatt



Joined: 29 Dec 2008
Location: London

PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

West Coast Tatterdemalion wrote:
Yes, vegetarianism is still considered strange in Korea Rolling Eyes . But they better get used to it because it is the way of the future. As far as caring what they think, I gave up caring what Koreans thought of me a long, long time ago. Their opinion isn't relevant. Get strength from within.


"Vegetarianism is harmless enough, though it is apt to fill a man with wind and self righteousness." - Robert Hutchinson
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brickabrack



Joined: 17 May 2010

PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can any educated person on food politics say that
veg is not the wave of the future?

Self-righteous or not, he is right.

Green in Kor? Would you like a double layer of plastic
with that or triple?Laughing
They will get used to it. Make a mark, if only for the
good of humanity and planet earth.
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coffeeman



Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I hear from some friends that live in Seoul, this city could use some air cleaning. Planting lots of trees would help to suck up some of that nasty air polution.

Korea does have some cool green technology.
I'm thinking about motion sensors that turn on lights in apartment lobbies and escalators. I saw the later at the Jeju airport.

I wonder what the heath statistics in Korea are regarding diet and diseases? I recently read that colon cancer is linked to beef consumption.
I suppose, the more beef you eat, the higher your risk goes.

One thing I love in Korea is the soy beverages. They taste better than the ones at home.
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staticnomad1986



Joined: 03 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard a lot about how great the recycling and garbage separation program was in Korea before I came. I've been less than impressed. You are supposed to separate the compost waste, recycling, and garbage. You have to buy separate bags for compost waste and recycling from the city.

The really sad part about that? They all get thrown together in one big landfill. At least in my area. There is nothing done with the recylable materials nor the compost waste. It might as well all be tossed in the same bag. Sad

As a vegetarian, I can definitely say that that concept has not caught on at all here (in the country, anyway). I seem to get the "CANNOT COMPUTE" response when I say that I'm vegetarian.
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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

staticnomad1986 wrote:
As a vegetarian, I can definitely say that that concept has not caught on at all here (in the country, anyway). I seem to get the "CANNOT COMPUTE" response when I say that I'm vegetarian.


I'm not a veggie, but there's four of them amongst my main group of friends here. The same eating out carry-on happens every time.

"I'm a vegetarian"
"Okay"
"Is there meat in this dish?"
"No"
"I'll order that."

10 minutes pass, the plate comes out, and surprise! There's meat in it. We basically stick to three restaurants when we go out now because there's enough meat choices to satiate the meat eaters and the staff actually understand vegetarianism. We're also in the country, if that makes any difference.
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coffeeman



Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got the impression a few years ago, in Korea the number of Korean vegetarians was zero.

That may change with some of the Koreans studying abroad coming back to SK to work.

Or get more American movie directors to put vegetarian characters in their films.
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drydell



Joined: 01 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea is a country that moves quickly..

There was less than 10 SMCH restaurants about 4 years ago in Korea.. now over 50...spreading like wildfire...

burying all the pigs alive because of the foot&mouth turned a lot of Koreans vegetarian after seeing that..

very health conscious country too.. the present meat infatuation (meat = wealth) has probably already peaked...

Actually the average Korean doesn't eat loads of samgyupsal or bugogi all the time ... Most Koreans eat mostly plant based foods with some small amounts of animal food (mostly fish) in their meals - always rice - and often fruit..
Its a high carb diet and they are very slim and healthy from it - I'm pretty sure it's 30 times less obesity than the US currently...

there is a rich tradition of delicious vegetarian food in this country... do not worry..
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coffeeman



Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drydell wrote:
Korea is a country that moves quickly..

burying all the pigs alive because of the foot&mouth turned a lot of Koreans vegetarian after seeing that..

..


Just yesterday I was reading about the U.S. doing similar things in an excellent book called EATING ANIMALS by Jonathan Safran Foer. There's a term for any livestock that lie sick on the ground. They're called "downers" and they're typically left to suffer until they die. The reason being that euthanizing them adds costs the meat industry doesn't want to pay.

This makes sense because all the meat companies compete fiercely on price right down to the cent. They'll cut any corners they can.

So, I'm not surprised to hear this is happening in Korea too.
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methdxman



Joined: 14 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Few comments that will incite some attacks against me:

1) There's nothing more annoying and gratifying at the same time as seeing an American go into another country and get their panties in a twist everyday cuz they're vegetarian.

Vegetarians from the west are major douche bags:

"Stop saying you're vegetarian if you eat fish! You're not one of us!"

Dude, no one gives a flying f about your eating habits or what you stand for. No one cares about your pseudo-movement. Who gives a crap? Eat whatever you want, everyone else will do the same.

I love veggies too.

2) Korea is like the easiest country to be a vegetarian. It's cheap, and the vast majority of our diet comes from non-meat products. There are tougher challenges in life than finding veggies in Korea. Much tougher.

Don't go to specialty places (which Korea is full of) and go to 백반집's (Baek ban) where they just serve rice, soup and side dishes. Most of the side dishes will be veg and not have any meat in it. Enjoy. Probably cost you 6,000 including unlimited refills on your veggies.
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itistime



Joined: 23 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Vegetarians from the west are major douche bags:

"Stop saying you're vegetarian if you eat fish! You're not one of us!"

Dude, no one gives a flying f about your eating habits or what you stand for. No one cares about your pseudo-movement. Who gives a crap? Eat whatever you want, everyone else will do the same.

I love veggies too.

2) Korea is like the easiest country to be a vegetarian. It's cheap, and the vast majority of our diet comes from non-meat products. There are tougher challenges in life than finding veggies in Korea. Much tougher. "


I can agree with some of this. MOST vegetarians from the west are douche bags. I occasionally eat fish and I don't tell other people what to eat. For the record, Koreans do give a crap what you eat. I've had more inquiries on my eating habits than anything else. Although, a curious co asked me when the first time I had sex was just the other day.

Veggies and fruit in Korea have become quite expensive over the last couple of years. Think you're eating organic?....think again. I challenge you to find veggies or fruit in a market (anywhere in Korea - not your co's personal garden of cabbage) that have never been doused with pest/insecticides or synthetic ferts. You just have to roll with the punches. There certainly are much tougher challenges in life than finding veggies in Korea.

Leading by example is better than getting all preachy, but sometimes lifestyles call for explanations. I don't like to tell people what they should do. Were humans to cut dead animals from their diets, the environment (and humans) would benefit a million-fold.

Korea has a long way to go. The recycling programs are a joke. You can only lead by example in the land of the morning calm. Make a positive impact (or non-impact). Live well.
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a vegetarian and couldn't care less if other people decided to attach the vegetarian label to themselves. I just want people to eat less meat and to think more about the food they eat.

Actually, vegetarianism is about to explode in Korea. A few celebrities became vegetarian really and restaurants like Loving Hut are adding new locations all the time and every time I go they're insanely busy.

Again, I could care less about the label, which is why I hardly ever bring it up with people unless it comes up on it's own, like it the situation I'm at a restaurant with my co-workers. The only time I defend or even bring up the fact that I'm a vegetarian is when I'm asked/pestered/backed into a corner.

Which leads me to my next point. I find that Westerners, particularly Americans, give vegetarians a really hard time. Some vegetarians deserve it but it doesn't seem to matter if you deserve it or not. In my case, they fish it out of me and then ridicule me about it.

Koreans just think it's weird but they won't harrass you endlessly about it. Westerners will harrass you endlessly and never drop it.

Some highlights from the last couple months:

"For every animal you don't eat, I'll eat three!"
"You don't eat food, you only eat what food eats!"
"Are you gay?" etc.

Koreans don't do that, at least not to our faces. It annoys me because if I saw a Westerner praying and said: "what are you doing? You know no one can hear you, right?" People would think I was an a-hole and rightly so.


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Louis VI



Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

itistime wrote:
For the record, Koreans do give a crap what you eat. I've had more inquiries on my eating habits than anything else.

Laughing Laughing

1. There is Korean nationalism at play there, they wanting the pride to hear you say rice and kimchi or re-affirm their belief that you eat pizza and hamburgers all the time.

2. There's the what's-in-the-waygook-shopper's-basket curiosity.

Inquiries into what you eat is not at all about their giving a crap about the nutritiousness or ethics of what they themselves eat, other than the collective mandate that 'Koreans must eat Korean food'.

Of course, a lot of Korean food doesn't necessarily have meat in them (meat isn't essential to gimchi dzigae I don't think. They could take that little pork out). Many of my students get very little meat anyways. Instant noodles, rice, kimchi, seaweed soup, cookies and other packaged snacks, bakery buns, deokbokki, etc. To be vegetarian wouldn't be too hard for Koreans to do while still 'eating Korean'.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vegetarianism is on a slow rise, but vegans... good luck! Laughing

Egg is plentiful here. Cheese selection is poor, and most foods have traces of seafood in them.

Some do have allergies to seafood, therefore cannot eat kimchi, most soups, and ddeokppokki.
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