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My degree was 2 yrs college 1 yr uni. This ok?

 
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Alpha Steel



Joined: 26 May 2011

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 1:23 pm    Post subject: My degree was 2 yrs college 1 yr uni. This ok? Reply with quote

Hey Everyone.

I'm just wondering if the way I got my degree might pose any problems when applying for an E-2 Visa.

I did two years at college, getting an HND. I was then able to fast-track into the third year of University because it was the same subject. I completed the third year and got a BSc.

I might have to wait and see what the transcript looks like, but does anyone know if this could be an issue?
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big_fella1



Joined: 08 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: My degree was 2 yrs college 1 yr uni. This ok? Reply with quote

Alpha Steel wrote:
Hey Everyone.

I'm just wondering if the way I got my degree might pose any problems when applying for an E-2 Visa.

I did two years at college, getting an HND. I was then able to fast-track into the third year of University because it was the same subject. I completed the third year and got a BSc.

I might have to wait and see what the transcript looks like, but does anyone know if this could be an issue?


You are good to go with a B.Sc. although I wouldn't mention to a recruiter how you got it, some recruiters like to invent problems.
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bobbybigfoot



Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never heard of 1 for 1 credit granting from college to university. Where are you from?

As far as I know, all you need is a degree that is granted by an accepted university. How you got it is irrelevant. That being said, how are you able to get a degree issued when at least 50% of the degree was not completed?

(My degree is a three year one. With 6 months of credits granted for a two year college diploma that I did.)
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobbybigfoot wrote:
I've never heard of 1 for 1 credit granting from college to university. Where are you from?

As far as I know, all you need is a degree that is granted by an accepted university. How you got it is irrelevant. That being said, how are you able to get a degree issued when at least 50% of the degree was not completed?

(My degree is a three year one. With 6 months of credits granted for a two year college diploma that I did.)


It is common in Canada as one example.

Do your first 2 years of your undergrad in a community college and then transfer to a university to complete your undergrad.

I assume there are similar transfer credit situations in the UK as well (open -U comes to mind).

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Alpha Steel



Joined: 26 May 2011

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your replies. Yeah I'll avoid mentioning it if I can.

I'm from Scotland. The college course is pretty much the same as the first 2 years of uni, so they have an agreement that lets you do this.

It's good for your CV in Scotland because you can say you have an HND and a BSc. But I don't know how Koreans will react to it, so I'll probably omit the HND from my CV.
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litebear



Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Holland

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha Steel wrote:
Thanks for your replies. Yeah I'll avoid mentioning it if I can.

I'm from Scotland. The college course is pretty much the same as the first 2 years of uni, so they have an agreement that lets you do this.

It's good for your CV in Scotland because you can say you have an HND and a BSc. But I don't know how Koreans will react to it, so I'll probably omit the HND from my CV.


Good idea mate. Just fire up a CV (mind and call it a resume) with your BSc and don't mention anything else.

I'm also from Scotland, if you need any help/advice fire me a PM
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fungrel



Joined: 26 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Masters degree is an 18 months degree, but in the context of Australian universities means that i didn't have to do an undergrad degree in order to qualify for the masters degree... i am a mature aged student which means that i don't need an undergrad because of my age. I saved about twenty thousand dollars doing courses to qualify for this, but in the greater scheme of things it doesn't really matter. I still have my masters degree in science which means technically i can teach university even though i teach elementary.
Because i want to.
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bobbybigfoot



Joined: 05 May 2007
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you have a master's degree and no undergrad degree? That doesn't sound professional.
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Sticks



Joined: 13 Mar 2011
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Australia does it slightly differently to America (we use the British university system afaik).

There's your basic Science and Arts degrees, then a whole bunch of 'fancy sounding' spinoff degrees with pre-determined majors, they're pretty much a run of the mill BA/BSc with a bit of extra 'ooooooooooh, fancy'. There's a separate system for mature age entry students, it'll also differ slightly on the university.

BA/BSc's are also 3 years. People I met gave me weird looks when I said I finished my BSc in 3 years, DOING lab work and such. Apparently here and in the USA they take 4 years? And apparently most kids here graduate without even having touched a centrifuge or whatnot, what the hell do they do during 4 years? Rolling Eyes
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Alpha Steel



Joined: 26 May 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this thread is a bit old but I never noticed the new posts and just wanted to say cheers.

Thanks litebear I'll keep that in mind. Smile
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as it's a bachelor's it doesn't matter how many years it took you. (Unless it took you 8 years to finish your B.A., than you've got some serious explaining to do Smile
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sing81



Joined: 09 Apr 2011
Location: USA

PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone else was posting strange things about their degree, making me think they did not get a degree from a legit American university.

Your transcript has all of your information. If your university took credits from another school, it should be on your transcript. For example, my AP high school history credits are on my transript written as advance placement credits. My GPA, my major, and my course work are all written on my transcript. It's not a secret, and as far as I know it's like that for all American universities. The code explaining what each thing stands for is also written on the back of the transcript.

All this talk about a 2 year versus a 4 year degree makes no sense to me. Most universities required a certain amount of coursework, like 60 credits, to be done at the campus issuing the degree; so there is no 1 year of university and 2 years of college, unless it's at the same school. If you were like me older but poor, you took an overload of credits to get a 4 year degree in 2 years; because you didn't have the money nor the time to waste. But it's still a 4 year university degree, because all that means is 120 university credits applied to at least 1 major which comprises your diploma. There are plenty of people who earn a university diploma in less than 4 years. There are some who take 6 years. It's not the amount of years it took, but your credit hours that matters.
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sing81 wrote:

there is no 1 year of university and 2 years of college, unless it's at the same school. If you were like me older but poor, you took an overload of credits to get a 4 year degree in 2 years; because you didn't have the money nor the time to waste. But it's still a 4 year university degree, because all that means is 120 university credits applied to at least 1 major which comprises your diploma. There are plenty of people who earn a university diploma in less than 4 years. There are some who take 6 years. It's not the amount of years it took, but your credit hours that matters.


OP said he didn't get his degree from a US School.

College usually means community college. A 2 year school, that's 65 credits for an A.A. degree in Liberal Arts. I think the General A.A. Degree (Considered to be weaker, since you'll lose more credits on the transfer) is 60 credits. A 4 year school is usually considered a university, that requires 120 credits. Assuming you take 18 credits a semester in the Spring and Fall and you don't fail anything. Then you will finish an A.A. degree in 2 years, a B.A. in 4 years.

Depending on the university and how majors you have, they may or may not accept all the credits you earned while doing your A.A. So it is possible to do a bachelors in 2 or more schools.

This is the standard for the East Coast. If you went on the West Coast. They go wacky with their quarter system and the final credit tally is over 200 for a 4 year degree. And then throw in some of the crazy liberal schools like Ever Green that don't assign grades, you get a pass or fail, or just a written feedback of your performance for the course.

I worked at a small company while I was in college. Did a little bit of everything there, including hiring people. Anybody that spent more than 4 years to get a B.A. with just one major and didn't have anything on their resume to show why it took so long. I immediately dumped into the trash. If I had 2nd thoughts, I'd ask them in the interview. In general their gpa tracked the time it took them to finish school. The longer they stayed, the lower it gets. In a nut shell, from an employer's perspective they look like complete bums. Other common things college kids do is just keep on declaring majors to avoid the recession or going into the job market. That's deeply damaging, shows immaturity and lack of foresight (Living at home with no job is by far cheaper than stacking up college loans). Also lots of competitive schools put time locks on their undergraduates. If you don't finish your degree in something like 8 years either part time or full time (Depending on the school), they force you to graduate because by the time the school has to intervenes those kids just became deadweight, sucking up resources and spots for new students

So the time you spend in school really does matter. The typical traditional aged college kid doesn't have much substance on their resume, so transcripts and time in school is the only indicator of talent you've got.
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