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Global Teacher
Joined: 24 May 2011
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 Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 6:23 pm Post subject: No hope for work at 65? |
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| I am in Busan for three months researching history, writing language courses and learning Korean. I have a PhD, MEd(TEFL), BA and UK QTS plus years of experience teaching English, Tourism, History and Business to Koreans in and out of Korea in language schools, universities, companies, and online. However at 65 I have hit an employment brick wall. Nobody (and I mean nobody) responds to my Korean job applications. Is it a futile task to continue applying? I get job offers in China and Thailand but I prefer Korea. |
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West Coast Tatterdemalion
Joined: 31 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| No offense, guy, but is Korea really the place that you want to be at 65 years old? I can think of a lot better place that I'd rather be at that age. |
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myenglishisno
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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If they were serious about learning English, they'd hire you.
Unfortunately, I think a 22-year-old blonde chick got your job.  |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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The door isnt welded shut but I think you'd need to make a winning in-person impression to convince a hiring committee, ie not stodgy.
Pushing 60 myself & not long before I get the official retirement boot from the public school system. I plan to stick around, I'm happy here.
If top jobs arent a priority, opportunities do exist. Best luck. |
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Global Teacher
Joined: 24 May 2011
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| West Coast Tatterdemalion wrote: |
| No offense, guy, but is Korea really the place that you want to be at 65 years old? I can think of a lot better place that I'd rather be at that age. |
I've worked in sixteen countries in all continents except the Americas. As an army officer in the 80's I even dealt with North Koreans. I like Koreans and Korea but (and this is probably what you are referring to) not Korean hiring practices.
However I think I stand little chance of getting work here. Thanks for your comments. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: No hope for work at 65? |
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| Global Teacher wrote: |
| I am in Busan for three months researching history, writing language courses and learning Korean. I have a PhD, MEd(TEFL), BA and UK QTS plus years of experience teaching English, Tourism, History and Business to Koreans in and out of Korea in language schools, universities, companies, and online. However at 65 I have hit an employment brick wall. Nobody (and I mean nobody) responds to my Korean job applications. Is it a futile task to continue applying? I get job offers in China and Thailand but I prefer Korea. |
You have NO chance for work in a public position (school or university). You you are past the maximum age for hiring (55). In fact, you are past the mandatory retirement age for public service positions.
You MAY have a chance in a private position (not publicly funded university, unigwan or hagwan) but it will be a LONG uphill battle (doubly so since you are NOT in Seoul).
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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My hagwon hired a 69 year old and she did wonderful her year here. Of course, they were not convinced until she decided to show up to interview, and she immediately impressed them with her energy and personality.
This same hagwon has a 57 year old on staff now, and I have known dozens of hagwon teachers about that age.
PM me if you're interested in teaching on Jeju. |
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jinks
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| West Coast Tatterdemalion wrote: |
| No offense, guy, but is Korea really the place that you want to be at 65 years old? I can think of a lot better place that I'd rather be at that age. |
Likewise - no offence, but if you are in your late twenties, early thirties it could argued that there are a lot better places than Korea to enjoy the golden opportunities that the 'best years of your life' offer. |
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Global Teacher
Joined: 24 May 2011
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| jinks wrote: |
| West Coast Tatterdemalion wrote: |
| No offense, guy, but is Korea really the place that you want to be at 65 years old? I can think of a lot better place that I'd rather be at that age. |
Likewise - no offence, but if you are in your late twenties, early thirties it could argued that there are a lot better places than Korea to enjoy the golden opportunities that the 'best years of your life' offer. |
Perhaps you can name one. My interests are military history, singing, writing history books, enjoying family life, hiking, scuba diving, language research, movies and ice skating. Korea is the best place I know for all that except San Francisco, which I can't afford. |
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myenglishisno
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| jinks wrote: |
Likewise - no offence, but if you are in your late twenties, early thirties it could argued that there are a lot better places than Korea to enjoy the golden opportunities that the 'best years of your life' offer. |
I hate when people say stuff like this. Korea is what you make of it. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| hiking, scuba diving |
Really? Korea is the best country in the world for hiking and scuba diving? Its hiking is better than Switzerland or New Zealand for example, it's scuba diving better than The Philippines? I'm not particularly interested in either of those but I've had much better hikes in Scotland, for example, than anywhere in Korea.
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| enjoying family life, |
What exactly do you mean by this as well? I'd have thought the best place to enjoy family life was where your family was but I've never thought about it much before |
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erasmus
Joined: 11 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| hiking, scuba diving |
Really? Korea is the best country in the world for hiking and scuba diving? Its hiking is better than Switzerland or New Zealand for example, it's scuba diving better than The Philippines? I'm not particularly interested in either of those but I've had much better hikes in Scotland, for example, than anywhere in Korea.
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| enjoying family life, |
What exactly do you mean by this as well? I'd have thought the best place to enjoy family life was where your family was but I've never thought about it much before |
All those things the OP mentioned that he liked doing appear to be working out well for him in Korea right now. Why do you have a problem with that? |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| Korea is the best place I know for all that |
He said this, I queried it. Why do you have a problem with that? |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:46 am Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
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| Korea is the best place I know for all that |
He said this, I queried it. Why do you have a problem with that? |
Key words here would be probably be "I know".
In other words in his experience Korea is the best place he knows to develop his interests. He never said it was the "best place in the world" for them. He even said that S.F was an exception to Korea but that he couldn't afford it. |
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Global Teacher
Joined: 24 May 2011
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for all the advice and remarks. I scuba dived in Papua New Guinea for three years but living in PNG isn't that great. I think Scotland (I speak Scots Gaelic and served in a Scots regiment) and New Zealand are fine for hiking. Nowhere's perfect but I like Korea very much. |
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