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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:16 am Post subject: Ratko Mladic arested in Serbia. |
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"Milorad Komodic". Almost an anagram.
Serbia Arrests War Crimes Fugitive Ratko Mladic
By Uri Friedman 08:51 AM ET
The Serbian government confirmed this morning that it has arrested Ratko Mladic, a former Bosnian Serb army commander and the most-wanted war crimes suspect from the 1992-1995 war in Bosnia and Herzegovina, during which Bosnian Serb forces, backed by then-Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic, launched a campaign against the country's Muslim and Croat populations. Serbian President Boris Tadic--who's been criticized for his inability to track Mladic down--says he's planning on extraditing Mladic (pictured above, in 1996) to the U.N.'s international war crimes tribunal in The Hague.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/05/serbia-arrests-war-crimes-fugitive-ratko-mladic/38162/ |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| You figure his trial will be more speedy than Milosevic's? |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
| You figure his trial will be more speedy than Milosevic's? |
UN tribunal is no different to the UN: slow and inneficient.
Its mostly about getting serbia to bow to Brussels. Its a symbolic gesture- breaking the will and nationalistic spirit of a country as a precondition to allowing them to join the EU.
Can you imagine the US handing over Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rice and Bush to that same tribunal? I doubt it.
I'm not sure that the UN is actually interested in the trial. In any case, sentencing him would be risky. He is still regarded as a war hero by a significant number of Serbians. It would create uneccesary ripples.
The tribunal seems to have a heavy bias against serbians.
Are they planning to put any muslims on trial as well? |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
| caniff wrote: |
| You figure his trial will be more speedy than Milosevic's? |
UN tribunal is no different to the UN: slow and inneficient.
Its mostly about getting serbia to bow to Brussels. Its a symbolic gesture- breaking the will and nationalistic spirit of a country as a precondition to allowing them to join the EU.
Can you imagine the US handing over Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rice and Bush to that same tribunal? I doubt it.
I'm not sure that the UN is actually interested in the trial. In any case, sentencing him would be risky. He is still regarded as a war hero by a significant number of Serbians. It would create uneccesary ripples.
The tribunal seems to have a heavy bias against serbians.
Are they planning to put any muslims on trial as well? |
You did not seem to express any sympathy for the thousands who were killed by the Serbian paramilitary forces including babies. Why is that? For the record, Bosnian Muslims and Croats (Hrvats) were put on trial for crimes. I would like to see more people put on trial.
As far as your point, one could use that excuse to put many people on trial from the US and Israel and the leader of the Sudan. That's correct. The US is a world superpower. Serbia is not. Israel is shielded by a superpower. The world is powerless to do something in the Sudan because of the Chinese interests and the large size of the country. It's business. If you can buy certain lives through oil deals, lobbying US Congress then you can go ahead and kill but up to a point. Had the Serbian paramilitary not killed so many civilians it would have been different politically for them.
You are trying to put crimes done by some Bosnian Muslims and the Serbians. What the Serbian forces did is connected with large scale genocide of the European Muslims who compared to their enemies had limited arms. And just as some right wing Zionists try to distort the bloodline of the Palestinians, Serbian fascists tried to claim the clearly European looking Bosnians were Turks just as you were trying to say that the Palestinians who even Israeli scientists are connected in large measure to the ancients. Why are you so blind to the suffering people born Muslim? These people were European, very Western, non-religious at any rate. Many Bosnian Muslim women married Christian men. This was mass genocide. Don't you get it?
Before reading this, I thought Junior is showing happiness that he was captured and would be put on trial. What a human disappointment.
If you were a mensch, then you would appreciate the suffering those people went through and show some compassion. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| Junior wrote: |
| caniff wrote: |
| You figure his trial will be more speedy than Milosevic's? |
UN tribunal is no different to the UN: slow and inneficient.
Its mostly about getting serbia to bow to Brussels. Its a symbolic gesture- breaking the will and nationalistic spirit of a country as a precondition to allowing them to join the EU.
Can you imagine the US handing over Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rice and Bush to that same tribunal? I doubt it.
I'm not sure that the UN is actually interested in the trial. In any case, sentencing him would be risky. He is still regarded as a war hero by a significant number of Serbians. It would create uneccesary ripples.
The tribunal seems to have a heavy bias against serbians.
Are they planning to put any muslims on trial as well? |
You did not seem to express any sympathy for the thousands who were killed by the Serbian paramilitary forces including babies. Why is that? |
Perhaps because they didn't believe in the same book of fairy tales as he does. |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| You did not seem to express any sympathy for the thousands who were killed by the Serbian paramilitary forces including babies. |
You do not seem to express any sympathy for the thousands killed by the Bosnian muslim military forces including babies.
Of course I have sympathy for the families of all victims invoved in the Balkans seccessionist conflicts of the 1990's.
But what I see from you-predictably-is a pro-muslim bias which you have inherited from one-sided media reports. No different to your anti-israel bias.
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| The US is a world superpower. Serbia is not. |
Thats why Serbian leaders are put on trial, and it is as if the whole country of Serbia is put on trial in the eyes of the world. There was a media frenzy surrounding milosevic, with him and his country demonised, while the media ignored the genocide committed against serbs by muslims.
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| Had the Serbian paramilitary not killed so many civilians it would have been different politically for them. |
Why did clinton bomb the serbs, but not the muslims who killed serbs?
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| Why are you so blind to the suffering people born Muslim? |
Why are you so blind to the suffering of Serbs?
In 1995 up to 300.000 serbs were driven from their homes by the Croatian government , killing upwards of 3000.
That was the biggest act of genocide of the yugoslav conflict.
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| These people were European, very Western, non-religious at any rate. |
Of course the srbrenicza massacre (I assume this is what you're referring to?) was a disgusting and barbaric event.
However to my knowledge however the serbs let women and children go free: it did not involve killing babies as you emotively claim.
You are also ignored the fact that Bosnian forces were in league with Mujahadeen and al-quaeda forces, and pursuing jihad against serbs and christians. And that Clinton facilitated al-quaeda's move into bosnia.
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It is scarcely credible, but nevertheless true, that the Clinton Administration ignored the Islamic Declaration by Alija Izetbegović, former president of Bosnia and Herzegovina, in which he clearly urged Islamists in Bosnia and worldwide to take up jihad against the West. Instead they regarded him as "their boy," ignoring the proliferating terrorist cells in Bosnia.
The Devastation of Kosovo
The silence of the West about the expulsion of Serbs, Romanies and other non-Albanians from Kosovo, the terrorizing of the remaining Serbs, and the destruction and desecration of literally hundreds of churches, monasteries, cemeteries and other Christian landmarks, some of which are medieval treasures, is a tribute to the West's allowing some of the worst vandalism and repression of the Christian faith in modern times.
There are more churches, monasteries and other Christian landmarks per square kilometer in Kosovo than anywhere else on earth. Kosovo is to Serbian Orthodox Christians what Canterbury is to Anglicans and the Vatican to Roman Catholics. But Christian Orthodox populations are expendable in the political maneuvering of Western politicians.
The latest bombshell is the Council of Europe's recently adopted report from Dick Marty that Kosovo leaders, including Prime Minister Hashim Thaci, are complicit in crime, including organ trafficking. There is now a strenuous effort to sweep the body parts issue under the rug lest it torpedo efforts to legitimize the illegally mandated separation of Kosovo from Serbia. The data are horrific: Serbian captive youths were selected on the basis of genetic compatibility for killing in order to harvest saleable body parts. |
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/the_united_caliphate_states_of.html
So once again you have somehow managed too come down on the side, directly or indirectly, of muslim extremists who have destroyed much of the balkans and turned into into a base for terrorism, human trafficking and oppression- subverting Europe from within in their master plan of islamization.
You don't seem to mind europe being swallowed by the growing sharia caliphate, just so long as you don't have to live under it.
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 2:38 am Post subject: |
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| Once again you have somehow managed too come down on the side, directly or indirectly, of muslim extremists who have destroyed much of the balkans and turned into into a base for terrorism, human trafficking and oppression. You don't seem to mind europe being swallowed by the growing islamic caliphate, just so long as you don't have to live under it. |
Once again you have somehow managed to proffer arguments that blame Muslims for everything while directly contradicting the vast majority of academic discourse on the subject. |
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