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brucefox



Joined: 23 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:51 pm    Post subject: Is anyone else allowed some freedom Reply with quote

In your office?

I noticed that the previous teacher was allowed by principal to bring his Play Station to school and play it in his office during the desk warming periods.
So I downloaded and installed World of Tanks to play some quick fixes between classes and downtimes. Nobody seems to be raising an eyebrow.
I dunno, is this kinda normal here? Anyone else allowed to just slack off like this? (Well, to me this is not slacking off... this is.. recharging... for more productivity)

I know I should be working on my Master's now.. But the bachelor's debt is still there and I want to get rid of it before I take on another financial burden.. So I blow up some polygon tanks!
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jcan



Joined: 08 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I play Super Mario 3 often at work. I sit between two co-teachers and neither of them care. One laughs sometimes when I get really into it. Just google "Super Mario 3" and it's halfway down the page, flashgamesite.com or something like that. Surprised
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know in the male staff room they'll either be watching movies or sports on the PC. That and everyone else is internet shopping/browsing.

Heck if your principal is cool you might be able to watch some NBA with him in his office or something, chill and have a beer and some snacks and a broken English conversation and then go out to the playground for a smoke. I'm not kidding about that. Some people may say that's what makes Korea terrible, I think that's what makes it great. If that happened back home there would be cops and the media and lawsuits.
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, you can do what you want, UNTIL YOU TALK ABOUT IT ON AN INTERNET FORUM AND SOMEONE COMPLAINS.

Seriously people, have we learned nothing? Some of us can sit around in our underwear, others have to write lesson plans we will never ever use - whatever we do though, when we have a good deal, we don't talk about it online lest someone complain that their deal isn't as sweet and we all get the shaft.
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furtakk



Joined: 02 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my old job (hagwon) had a lot of down time where we had to sit around with nothing to do.

my boss was awesome and would let us do virtually anything minus leaving for very extended periods of times. it was great the first 6 months, but it got old fast. i learned a lot of korean, read a lot of books and played a lot of fifa that year.
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say do what you want if you're deskwarming for an extended period of time but if it's during a normal semester and you have a normal class schedule, don't get too comfortable. My rule of thumb was that I sat up straight and "looked busy" during the regular semester even if I wasn't busy (which meant no games unless they weren't obvious like browser games) and when I had deskwarming I did whatever I wanted.

furtakk wrote:
my old job (hagwon) had a lot of down time where we had to sit around with nothing to do.


Really? Wow. Most hagwons try to squeeze the full load out of you, meaning you teach 30 hours. It's pretty rare to find a hagwon that gives you downtime. My current hagwon has some downtime but not nearly as much as a public school.

My first hagwon had no downtime and if I came into work an hour early, they'd start sending random kids into my classroom, yell "teach!" and slam the door Shocked
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DaHu



Joined: 09 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just being THERE makes it unbearable for me. I don't care if I could sit around and play games, the feeling of not being able to leave and having to be there for no reason whatsoever is incredibly frustrating.

The Korean custom of being at work for long, long hours but not actually working for most of them doesn't sit well with me. I'd prefer to be efficient and effective and get out of there early with a job well done.

In college I signed up for a class taught by a visiting Korean and the first day he said he wanted students to work longer, not smarter. Seriously, that's what he said. I dropped the class immediately after that.
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaHu wrote:


In college I signed up for a class taught by a visiting Korean and the first day he said he wanted students to work longer, not smarter. Seriously, that's what he said. I dropped the class immediately after that.


I'd kill to see the rationalization behind this part of the Korean psyche...
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rickpidero



Joined: 03 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaHu wrote:
Just being THERE makes it unbearable for me. I don't care if I could sit around and play games, the feeling of not being able to leave and having to be there for no reason whatsoever is incredibly frustrating.

The Korean custom of being at work for long, long hours but not actually working for most of them doesn't sit well with me. I'd prefer to be efficient and effective and get out of there early with a job well done.

In college I signed up for a class taught by a visiting Korean and the first day he said he wanted students to work longer, not smarter. Seriously, that's what he said. I dropped the class immediately after that.


Yeah, it really is quite idiotic. I've been saying Koreans work harder not smarter for awhile. But, we are not Korean, so we do not understand...

Anyways, I had a lot of free time when I worked in public school, I did all kinds of things, my school even had a sleeping room that only male staff had a key to.
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Kaypea



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm so curious about these schools with sleeping rooms ^^

We're too busy at my school... but when there's downtime, there's obvious tv drama watching on computers, stuff like that.

Sometimes I consider working out in the English Zone when I have down time. Haven't done it yet, though.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaHu wrote:
Just being THERE makes it unbearable for me. I don't care if I could sit around and play games, the feeling of not being able to leave and having to be there for no reason whatsoever is incredibly frustrating.


It's called salary and a contractually obligated number of hours to work. You can thank the other NETs who whined that it was unfair that some people just got to go home. I guess there is something to the Western psyche (not that there really is, I think what made America great was the idea of "winners and losers" being okay) that would rather see us all equally miserable than to have it be by luck of the draw.

That and there must be some cultural psyche to finding getting paid to do nothing unbearable. 99% of the world would kill to be paid good money to sit around and do nothing. I think anyone who has a problem sitting around doing nothing and getting paid is either incredibly alturistic or incredibly spoiled.
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yeti08



Joined: 04 Nov 2009
Location: Anyang - Pyeongchon

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I offered my boss that I take a small paycut if I am allowed to leave early on Fridays. My last class is at 7pm yet I am scheduled to be there until 9:30. I offered paying for 2 less hours a week and I'd leave at 7:30. She said it's very important that I am there for those 2 hours.
Whatever I'll take her money to do absolutely nothing. My Kindle can't read itself.
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