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iggyb
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:24 am Post subject: |
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I don't see where I'm doing 1/3rd of the work either.
My two co-teachers teach. One has seen that the textbook is inadequate and finds extra material frequently - but also relies on the textbook and material from previous teachers much of the time. She's good though and will get better with experience teaching ESL.
They do have more meetings than I have to attend and more paperwork and some afterschool classes.
I taught Korean teachers for over a year too. I know they don't do, for the most part, do lesson plans. When I tried to get them to go through the lesson planning process typical in schools where I've worked in the US, they revolted and I had to drop the unit, because they said they Korean textbooks had all they needed. I now know in detail just how wrong that is...
As far as pay, I don't think either of the two I work with make less than a first year FT, and one of them only has a couple of years teaching experience.
Overall, do I have it so cushy that it justifies not having breaks standard for teachers? I'll have to see, but I doubt it.
I'm not ready to complain, because the teachig load I have is less than the US and doesn't sap my energy nearly as much -- so I'm not going to miss the long breaks as much as otherwise, and I'm not planning on being here beyond Feb. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0

Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:01 am Post subject: |
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| That one day makes it a 4 day weekend, which is a lovely mini-break. I still say go with the sick day method. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| lifeinkorea wrote: |
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| I don't see how a school's birthday constitutes a day off. Sure, it's nice if they offer it, but I wouldn't expect it. ... I don't feel teachers have a right to take a day off because it is the school's birthday. |
What?! If the rest of the teachers are taking the day off why shouldn't you expect it? And what difference does it make if you don't feel teachers have the right to take that day off? |
Ok, be careful what you ask for. The days after that ONE day off, and the days before, are filled with the teachers doing a hell of a lot more work than what we are doing in the classroom.
If you are trying to argue equality here, it isn't going to work. If another foreign teacher gets the day off at the same school, then you can make a case for it because of the school's policy. It's not a national holiday or normally written in contracts. |
Nothing you've written here has any relevance to that day being taken off. The school doesn't give that day off because of all the hard work that the teachers do. So you can blow that smoke somewhere else. |
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sojusucks

Joined: 31 May 2008
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Op, you're being royally and unceremoniously screwed. Don't accept it, though it may be too late now. |
You're a native English teacher doing 1/3 of the work for the same amount of money as the Korean teachers. You are not being screwed in any way.
Suck it up and deskwarm. Its not worth the "political capital" that you will spend to win this battle. |
Call in sick. Cough, cough. |
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southernman
Joined: 15 Jan 2010 Location: On the mainland again
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| dbtm wrote: |
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| Op, you're being royally and unceremoniously screwed. Don't accept it, though it may be too late now. |
You're a native English teacher doing 1/3 of the work for the same amount of money as the Korean teachers. You are not being screwed in any way.
Suck it up and deskwarm. Its not worth the "political capital" that you will spend to win this battle. |
Actually, like others, I don't really believe that we ar doing 1/3 of the work of our co-teachers
Unless of course they are the head of Department as well as a Head Teacher as one of my co-teachers is.
I teach more hours than any of my co-teachers, Do quite a few lesson plans each week. As well as grade tests and diaries. I'm in no way saying I'm over worked but I don't buy the whole 1/3 idea. Plus we work summer and winter vacations when our co-teachers are on holiday.
It's very easy to appear to be busy and Korean's have taken this to a whole level. On more than one acassion I've had co-teachers say they were too busy and could I take the class alone. I literally jump at the opportunity. Sometimes, something has come yp (behaioural or technical, usually) and I've had to look them up.
Invaribly, they are reading a novel, surfing the Net or sleeping. On one memorable ocassion a co-teacher was doing all three. Asleep, with a novel on her chest with the computer opened to daum. The look on her face when she was 'busted' made my day |
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MollyBloom

Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Location: James Joyce's pants
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:32 am Post subject: |
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EPIK added this clause to the contract last year for cases like this:
During the school semester, the Employer may allow the Employee to not come to work on the day(s) when the school is closed for in-semester school holiday(s), school anniversary day(s), etc., and these days will not be considered part of the Paid Leave set forth in the forgoing clause.
SMOE not so? |
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| Who told you that? The standard operating procedure for a school's birthday is for all the teachers to complete a form requesting permission to "prepare lesson material at one's residence" and submit that to the principal. If your co-teacher is unfamiliar with that form (quite unlikely), go up the chain of command until you get someone who's got a head on their shoulders and is using it. |
Well, I don't think SMOE has added it to the contract (I just went over it, but please point it to me if I missed it), but apparently it's a new rule. I recently had the same issue come up at my school.
As CentralCali stated, as well as my handler, the form basically says I will "develop materials at home." Korean teachers, my handler told me, have to fill out the same form for any school days given off by the P/VP. This was also confirmed by my NSET district rep. and my district supervisor.
In think with concerning the OP's particular issue, he/she was told on Saturday about this, when the school's birthday is this Tuesday. Giving the OP more time in advance to make a decision would have been courteous...but you know the deal.
If I were the OP, I'd go in and deskwarm. Just keep the new rule in mind so that you can take the next school-given holiday off as a "lesson planning day at home."
Now, if you are one of the lucky ones who don't have to deskwarm or get extended vacations, I envy you! From my VP's attitude towards my recent inquiry towards matters of this kind, it seems I'll be deskwarming a lot. Sad Mollybloom
I think I might repaint my classroom during the next deskwarming session... |
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MollyBloom

Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Location: James Joyce's pants
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| That one day makes it a 4 day weekend, which is a lovely mini-break. I still say go with the sick day method. |
"Having a bad case of the trots" has gotten me out of a lot of waitressing shifts. I'm sure it will work in this instance! |
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NYC_Gal 2.0

Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| The word for diarrhea is 설사 (seol-sa.) Just sayin'. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| This is why one really should attend the weekly teacher's meeting at 08:35 every Monday (or the first work day of the week if Monday is a holiday). These forms will be placed by the secretary on everyone's chair along with the weekly plan. At the end of the meeting, there will be a rush to the head teacher's desk to submit these forms. I've heard people complain about these meetings, but attending them has saved me a number of surprises. |
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shostahoosier
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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The OP shouldnt have to deskwarm because the school wont be open for its birthday.
I'm not sure why someone brought up all the nonsense about NETs not working as hard as Korean teachers. True or not (...Korean teachers certainly "look" busy) doesnt really mean a whole lot. If it is true...then surely all of the administrative staff should come to work too, right?
Even though I'd rather be at home, I can deal with desk-warming over summer/winter break because my co-workers come (including "interns", Principal and VP) and we eat lunch and the school is open.
Going to school and being the only person there makes no sense. I think your co-teacher doesnt know what she's talking about. |
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riley
Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Location: where creditors can find me
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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This isn't like coming in during summer vacation. There will be no one at the school. The doors will be locked (maybe one will be open). The principal and vice principals will be home, the secretaries will be gone. The power will be off.
Give the school a call on Tuesday (I assume after the monday holiday). If a woman answers, assume it's the secretary and come in. If no one answers, then you can be sure that it's closed. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:30 am Post subject: |
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Personally, if I were the OP, I'd make it a point to be at the school at exactly 08:30 a.m. Tuesday morning. If there's not another person at the school, I'd take a picture with my cell phone (so the satellite time stamp will be on the photo). Next, I would call the co-teacher at 08:31 a.m. Finally, I would have a fairly blunt conversation with her Wednesday morning.
Here's what I think happened: the co-teacher screwed up and didn't get the form I mentioned earlier in the thread to the OP. The principal received guidance from the powers that be that anyone not at the school that day must have the "prep at home" form on file. Since the OP doesn't have that, either the principal and the co-teacher freaked out or--and this is what I'd back if I were a betting person--just the co-teacher freaked out and said, "Uh-oh! The NET doesn't have written permission to be gone Tuesday! I better order him to school."
A sensible plan would be to call the NET on Saturday and instead of ordering him to school, simply advising him to backdate a form when he arrives at school on Wednesday. |
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rainism
Joined: 13 Apr 2011
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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I doubt whether you even have to fill out this form in this instance.
I fill them out along with everyone else when principal gives special days to extend a holiday period, during Chuseok for example, but I've never had to fill it out for the school's birthday.
I'd make it a point to call in sick --- which is something otherwise I never do.
once again, I repeat, you're being screwed. |
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