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Drew345

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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:25 am Post subject: Water "powered" air conditioner |
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I saw a neat portable air conditioner in Thailand, and I wonder if anyone has seen them in Korea.
It blows out slightly chilled air, but has no freon or condensers or etc. like a regular air conditioner. I remember that water was put in the top and the air was blown over or around the water and came out cooled. Ice could also be used to be a bit more cooled. The water wasn't actually blown out, just the cooled air.
Anyway, I am getting tempted to turn on the air con in my room at night, but air conditioning always makes my throat so dry, I really hate air con at night. One of those water cooler type air coolers might be just what I need.
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:15 am Post subject: |
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Technomart has them. some with ice packs. That is how theaters used to be cooled before aircon. Prime technology 90 years ago! |
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DaHu
Joined: 09 Feb 2011
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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take a shower, don't dry off, lay in front of fan - instant A/C
although it does tend to get the bed wet a bit... still, better than nothing, worked for me at times |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Swampfox10mm wrote: |
Technomart has them. some with ice packs. That is how theaters used to be cooled before aircon. Prime technology 90 years ago! |
Are those worth it? I've been tempted to buy one. |
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Lazio
Joined: 15 Dec 2010
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Sure you can buy them here. They are called 냉풍기 I believe. Go to some online shopping site and do a search.
I actually have one but can't really comment on it since I haven't used it. Got it from craigslist last winter.
They work best at low humidity. That said, in Korean summers it might not be the best thing but if it worked in Thailand, it should be ok here as well. It also works as a humidifier (you can use it in winter) and as an air filter (wet surface captures airborne particles really well) I'm planning to use it in our really small bedroom to make the sleeping comfortable. I hope it will work. |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008 Location: Marakesh
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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What you're talking about is a swamp cooler. They are great, IF the air is dry, otherwise they are marginal at best. Why you saw one in Thailand is beyond me...
They work on the same principal as sweat. Water evaporates, takes the energy (heat) with it, and you feel cooler. BUT, they only work if the air is dry and the dew point is right. Otherwise, you're just adding moisture to the air and it gets really uncomfortable.
It would be nice to use in Korea in May and June, but come July-September, it'll be too humid to be of any real value. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:51 am Post subject: |
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The ones with ice packs do not add humidity, and differ from the water type. Korea has the ice pack type at Technomart and probably Yongsan Ipark mall. They will actually remove some humidity from the air. But you need to remember to freeze the packs again and again. They do work some in smaller rooms. Seem to remember them costing around 120,000.
Honestly. i would just buy a cheap used 4 to 6 pyung aircon from a shop for 200000 or so installed, but that is just me. The 4 pyung models dont take a lot of power and will cool a 1 room well. Sometimes a 2 room if you are not in the sun. I used to cool a 3 bedroom basement villa with a used 4 pyung unit. I just closed the door to one of the rooms I wasnt using. |
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pkang0202

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:36 am Post subject: |
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I've heard people using water bottles instead of the ice packs. Keep a few in your freezer, when one melts replace it with a frozen one. could save you some money. |
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Drew345

Joined: 24 May 2005
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:16 am Post subject: |
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I found a nice swamp cooler on Gmarket, but like mentioned above, they are mostly for dry climates, and wont help much in July and August here.
I actually bought an air conditioner for my bedroom a couple of years ago. But the salesman talked me into upsizing it to be safe and upsizing it some more since there is a long run from the wall unit to the outside condenser. So I ended up with a way overpowerful aircon for my bedroom. Now it seems even if I set it for 25 or 26 (not too cool), the room gets so dry my throat aches. I should just sell it and get the smallest one I can find installed.
My problem is that my apartment is always 5 degrees hotter than the outdoors. Even with the windows and door open and fans going. I don't understand how my apartment can always be hotter than outside, and hotter than the hall, but there it is.
So, I've got the fans cranking at night (but still stays hotter than outside), just need something to give me a couple of more degrees cooling to assist the fan in the window. Maybe the icepack cooling fan is what I need (rather than the swamp cooler).
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Vox_Populi
Joined: 04 May 2009 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:05 am Post subject: Re: Water "powered" air conditioner |
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Drew345 wrote: |
I saw a neat portable air conditioner in Thailand, and I wonder if anyone has seen them in Korea.
It blows out slightly chilled air, but has no freon or condensers or etc. like a regular air conditioner. I remember that water was put in the top and the air was blown over or around the water and came out cooled. Ice could also be used to be a bit more cooled. The water wasn't actually blown out, just the cooled air.
Anyway, I am getting tempted to turn on the air con in my room at night, but air conditioning always makes my throat so dry, I really hate air con at night. One of those water cooler type air coolers might be just what I need.
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Anyone that's grown up or lived any amount of time in America's Southwest knows that what you're describing is ESSENTIALLY an evaporative cooler. They work well IF you live in a dry climate. About the only time Korea has a dry climate is in the winter, the time when you'd be least likely to need or want an air conditioner.
So, try it. Maybe it'll work for you. People have different tolerances for heat and coldness. I know it wouldn't work for me, but perhaps it will for you. 
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:24 am Post subject: |
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You might be able to get into a used aircon for 150,000, actually.
Seriously though, a small one will do way more than one might think to cool the house (unless it's difficult for air to circulate out of the aircon room into the others. We've got a 4 pyung in one bedroom and hardly turn it below 26. I've had wall hanging ones and I've had stand ones (have both now), and I think the wall hanging ones work best, for the money. |
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Swampfox10mm
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:16 am Post subject: |
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I've used them...they are only marginally better than nothing. |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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I bought a dehumidifier and will see how that works. I assume a dehumidifier uses far less power than an air conditioner. |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008 Location: Marakesh
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Yaya wrote: |
I bought a dehumidifier and will see how that works. I assume a dehumidifier uses far less power than an air conditioner. |
Not necessarily. You can run an AC unit for 5 minutes and cool off a small apartment with no trouble, but you'd have to run the dehumidifier a lot longer to notice any difference, PLUS a dehumidifier is going to warm the air. A dehumidifier is great for basements that are naturally cool, but not really for apartments. You're better off using the AC unit as it's going to remove some moisture from the air AND cool it, all in a shorter time. |
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