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mfincher
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 Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:31 am Post subject: Anyone try to get into Hongdae clubs w/ US drivers license |
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| My passport and ARC are in the hands of a travel agent for visa purposes. Anyone ever use a USA drivers license at a Hongdae club when they card you? I know they can get all funny about Americans because of the military... |
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Vimfuego
Joined: 10 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:32 am Post subject: |
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| They card you? You're kidding right? Are they making sure you're not too old? |
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Zanniati
Joined: 04 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| Vimfuego wrote: |
| They card you? You're kidding right? Are they making sure you're not too old? |
Yeah, pretty much every club I've been to there cards you. I don't have my ARC card yet so I have to keep bringing my Passport. The thing is SO beat up now...
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| My passport and ARC are in the hands of a travel agent for visa purposes. Anyone ever use a USA drivers license at a Hongdae club when they card you? I know they can get all funny about Americans because of the military... |
I haven't given it a shot. Is there a reason you can't use your passport? That's what I've been doing. Just stick it in your front pocket. Also, do you look like a military guy? If so, it might be harder for you to get in with your driver's license. If not, it might be worth a try. |
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rainism
Joined: 13 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:15 am Post subject: |
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is everyone being carded regardless of appearance, age, etc?
r u being carded for looking too old, too young or just standard policy for everyone?
which clubs?
I'm not about to start walking around carrying my ARC much less my passport while going out. Recipe for disaster or at least major pain in the behind. |
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nate1983
Joined: 30 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| My passport and ARC are in the hands of a travel agent |
Is there a reason you can't use your passport? |
I think the whole point was that the travel agent has it. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| rainism wrote: |
is everyone being carded regardless of appearance, age, etc?
r u being carded for looking too old, too young or just standard policy for everyone?
which clubs?
I'm not about to start walking around carrying my ARC much less my passport while going out. Recipe for disaster or at least major pain in the behind. |
1) You should always carry your ARC. That's your ID here.
2) Prior to getting your ARC, carry a photocopy of your passport.
3) A lot of the clubs in Hongdae need to see an ARC to prove that you're not military. It's standard policy for everyone, males in particular, even if said males have hair down to their shoulders and couldn't possibly be military. |
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rainism
Joined: 13 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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sorry, I'm not carrying my ARC around to lose it just so I can have an ID.
I don't need an ID. For what and for whom? I try to always carry as little as possible. I don't wear a wallet for e.g.
amazingly enough as the US has lurched toward fascism after 9-11, the civil libertarians have managed to at least temporarily delay the introduction of a mandatory national ID card.
if people here are required to have/carry one , that's a regulation I'll happily ignore just as I've always ignored it in every single other country. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| rainism wrote: |
sorry, I'm not carrying my ARC around to lose it just so I can have an ID.
I don't need an ID. For what and for whom? I try to always carry as little as possible. I don't wear a wallet for e.g.
amazingly enough as the US has lurched toward fascism after 9-11, the civil libertarians have managed to at least temporarily delay the introduction of a mandatory national ID card.
if people here are required to have/carry one , that's a regulation I'll happily ignore just as I've always ignored it in every single other country. |
We have a national ID card already. It's called a driver's license since pretty much everyone has one. |
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runthegauntlet
Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| rainism wrote: |
amazingly enough as the US has lurched toward fascism after 9-11, the civil libertarians have managed to at least temporarily delay the introduction of a mandatory national ID card.
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Nevermind. Guess it's not a law. Ahsaa.
Last edited by runthegauntlet on Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:50 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| 3) A lot of the clubs in Hongdae need to see an ARC to prove that you're not military. It's standard policy for everyone, males in particular, even if said males have hair down to their shoulders and couldn't possibly be military. |
Do those same clubs deny entry to members of the ROK military? |
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highstreet
Joined: 13 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| 3) A lot of the clubs in Hongdae need to see an ARC to prove that you're not military. It's standard policy for everyone, males in particular, even if said males have hair down to their shoulders and couldn't possibly be military. |
Do those same clubs deny entry to members of the ROK military? |
Why would they? The US soldiers are the ones that are annoying |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| highstreet wrote: |
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| northway wrote: |
| 3) A lot of the clubs in Hongdae need to see an ARC to prove that you're not military. It's standard policy for everyone, males in particular, even if said males have hair down to their shoulders and couldn't possibly be military. |
Do those same clubs deny entry to members of the ROK military? |
Why would they? The US soldiers are the ones that are annoying |
Really, now? All US soldiers or just the ones you think represent all US soldiers? Thanks to your post, I see you as annoying and yet I'm not considering everyone who posts on Dave's an annoyance. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
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| 3) A lot of the clubs in Hongdae need to see an ARC to prove that you're not military. It's standard policy for everyone, males in particular, even if said males have hair down to their shoulders and couldn't possibly be military. |
Do those same clubs deny entry to members of the ROK military? |
Is this a serious question?
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sorry, I'm not carrying my ARC around to lose it just so I can have an ID.
I don't need an ID. For what and for whom? I try to always carry as little as possible. I don't wear a wallet for e.g. |
Hongdae bouncers and the hospital once they toss your ass out for asking them why you need an ID? |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, it's a serious question. I'm against prejudice. If the reason for rejecting someone is because they're in the military, then that should apply to all in the military. If it doesn't, then it's obvious what the real reason for the ban is: prejudice against foreign military.
Which reminds me, there are some soldiers from other countries assigned to the military base in Seoul. Are they also banned by the clubs or is that "honor" reserved just for American military?
Maybe the clubs would do better to ban Koreans instead of a group of foreigners they're unfairly tarnishing as a whole. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, it's a serious question. I'm against prejudice. If the reason for rejecting someone is because they're in the military, then that should apply to all in the military. If it doesn't, then it's obvious what the real reason for the ban is: prejudice against foreign military.
Which reminds me, there are some soldiers from other countries assigned to the military base in Seoul. Are they also banned by the clubs or is that "honor" reserved just for American military? |
They're banned because they have a well deserved reputation for starting crap. By no means do I think that all or even a majority of US personnel based in Korea lean in this direction, but there are enough bad apples that I can understand where bars would just ban them rather than deal with the trouble their presence might bring. Bottom line is, foreign teachers are a lot less likely to start anything than military guys are, and even if they do, they're much easier to deal with than people who are trained fighters. |
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