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How can I increase my chances of a good hagwon?

 
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gingercat



Joined: 06 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:13 pm    Post subject: How can I increase my chances of a good hagwon? Reply with quote

Is there anything you can do ahead of time - the only thing I can think of is to use an accredited recruiting agency. Are there any known red flags to watch for?
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sallymonster



Joined: 06 Feb 2010
Location: Seattle area

PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most important thing you can do is talk to the current/former teachers at the school offering you a job. If a school/recruiter refuses to give you contact information for these teachers, that's a HUGE red flag.

You should also read the contract review thread and learn about what a lawful and legitimate contract should look like.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:25 pm    Post subject: Re: How can I increase my chances of a good hagwon? Reply with quote

gingercat wrote:
Is there anything you can do ahead of time - the only thing I can think of is to use an accredited recruiting agency. Are there any known red flags to watch for?


and tell them you want wonderland. Razz
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shifty



Joined: 21 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Sally says, speak to a former teacher. Beware of current teachers, they quite rightly put themselves first.

Find out how to teach EFL. If you can't teach and feel lost you'll naturally try ingratiate with the director and be submissive. You'be ready to accept all manner of abuse as a kind of quid pro quo.

Hakwon directors can smell weakness from a distance of 100 paces.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shifty wrote:
As Sally says, speak to a former teacher. Beware of current teachers, they quite rightly put themselves first.

Find out how to teach EFL. If you can't teach and feel lost you'll naturally try ingratiate with the director and be submissive. You'be ready to accept all manner of abuse as a kind of quid pro quo.

Hakwon directors can smell weakness from a distance of 100 paces.



When talking to teachers, current and former, remember this:

Current teachers who are leaving may need a warm body to take their place. Sometimes they will hide problems at the school.

Current teachers who are staying will give a more honest evaluation.

Current teachers who have renewed their contracts are a good sign.

Former teachers who were fired or allowed to finish a contract but not asked to renew will have resentment and will give negative reviews when it is usually the teachers who were the problem.

Former teachers who finished their contracts and moved on down life's road willingly will give honest reviews.
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shifty



Joined: 21 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, ontheway expresses it better than my rather absolute statements.
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