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Anyone else have a problem with "foreigner"?
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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:

My question to you is this: how proficient are you in Korean?


Quote:
"Anyon Hasyo Waygook"


I think that answers your question.
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Reise-ohne-Ende



Joined: 07 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

morrisonhotel wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:

My question to you is this: how proficient are you in Korean?


Quote:
"Anyon Hasyo Waygook"


I think that answers your question.


lol awwww
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get used to hearing 'waygookin' because it's not going to change anytime soon - no matter how well you ingratiate yourself into Korean culture. There's westerners here that have taken Korean citizenship, become fluent in the language, eat the food, wear hanbok at home etc, and they will always be known as 'the foreigner who has Korean citizenship'.
Once a waygookin, always a waygookin.
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Ruby Thursday



Joined: 29 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans get a pass when they use the term. NON KOREANS (see what I did there?) don't. It drives me up the f'ing wall when I hear a whitee say it.
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murmanjake



Joined: 21 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well when a Korean mis-dials your number a well-placed "waygookin" is usually a sure-fire way to convince them to hang up

I kinda like how my drycleaner writes "waygookin" on my slips. Now I know that I'm the only one! His prices are nice and low too.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:
Get used to hearing 'waygookin' because it's not going to change anytime soon - no matter how well you ingratiate yourself into Korean culture. There's westerners here that have taken Korean citizenship, become fluent in the language, eat the food, wear hanbok at home etc, and they will always be known as 'the foreigner who has Korean citizenship'.
Once a waygookin, always a waygookin.


Weird.
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marsavalanche



Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fail to see what the problem is here.

You look like a foreigner, you get called a foreigner.

Stop taking it so personal, it's a word. Not a condescending term like the n-word or hell even "gaijin" in Japan.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marsavalanche wrote:
I fail to see what the problem is here.

You look like a foreigner, you get called a foreigner.

Stop taking it so personal, it's a word. Not a condescending term like the n-word or hell even "gaijin" in Japan.


And when you're not a foreigner but you're called one?

And what exactly does a foreigner look like? I know ppl of Asian decent here who blend in fairly well, yet they are truly foreigners... yet there are those who have Korean citizenship who would still be labelled as such by your standards.
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Feah



Joined: 26 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So....I don't find the term offensive. Can a better term be used? Probably. Will it ever be used? Probably not.

For a country that hardly follows the law, I highly doubt they would understand/accept a 'waygooks' feelings.

Accept it and move on...move on~
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What term should be used?
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murmanjake



Joined: 21 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feah wrote:
So....I don't find the term offensive. Can a better term be used? Probably. Will it ever be used? Probably not.

For a country that hardly follows the law, I highly doubt they would understand/accept a 'waygookins' feelings.

Accept it and move on...move on~


C'mon people get with it!
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Reise-ohne-Ende



Joined: 07 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
What term should be used?


Someone's name, position, or title in most circumstances, as it is with everyone else. If that's not applicable for some reason, and where the person is from is relevant to the discussion, then 미국 사람 (American) or 영국 사람 (Brit) or wherever they're from (taking care to be accurate). If you're talking about a mixed group of people, or you're not sure where the person is from, you can maybe say 다른 나라 사람 (someone from another country) or 국제 방문자 (international visitor), 국제 관광객 (international tourist), 이민자 (immigrant), etc.

There are plenty of terms to use that don't have negative connotations. 외국인 has 'outsider' built right into the term, the same way 'foreigner' does in English. I don't call people foreigners. It implies that their beliefs and habits are strange or unnatural. Most of the time, there's no need to refer to someone's nationality when you're talking about them. If there is a need, there are more diplomatic ways to do so.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
What term should be used?


In what situation?
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eskeemo



Joined: 04 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reise-ohne-Ende wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
What term should be used?


... If you're talking about a mixed group of people, or you're not sure where the person is from, you can maybe say 다른 나라 사람 (someone from another country) or 국제 방문자 (international visitor), 국제 관광객 (international tourist), 이민자 (immigrant), etc..


How do you write, "[a faq'ing] alien", in Korean? Mm?
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eskeemo



Joined: 04 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gnawbert wrote:
It stemmed from a group of drunk girls shouting "Hey Waegooks!" and laughing as they entered the bar, with no intention of talking to us. "Hey Mexicans" to a group of Mexicans, it'd probably be considered pretty damn rude.

One of the expats called me a racist and said I didn't understand Korean culture.


The girls shouted, "Hey Waegooks"? Waegooks? That translates to, "Hey foreign countries!" I think they were enjoying the wall maps at the establishment or downed a few shots of absinthe and to their eyes everything was two dimensional and glossy. Smile
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