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tophatcat
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| myenglishisno wrote: |
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| Maybe my district has all the conservative PS teachers becuase I've never met one married to a foriegne or heard of such. |
Me neither and I've worked in Gyeonggi-do and Seoul, haha. I could imagine a Korean PS teacher marrying a foreigner but not an English teacher and ESPECIALLY not the NET at their school. It'd kind of be like marrying the janitor or someone who works in the kitchen. |
I worked with a NET who married a Korean public school teacher. They worked together in a hakwon. Later, she went to work in a public school. I think it was around 2 years later and they were married. It happens.... |
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rainism
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| myenglishisno wrote: |
| minos wrote: |
| Maybe my district has all the conservative PS teachers becuase I've never met one married to a foriegne or heard of such. |
Me neither and I've worked in Gyeonggi-do and Seoul, haha. I could imagine a Korean PS teacher marrying a foreigner but not an English teacher and ESPECIALLY not the NET at their school. It'd kind of be like marrying the janitor or someone who works in the kitchen. |
generally speaking, I'd agree with this. Exceptions may occur, but they'll be the rare exception to the rule.
and yes, I've been told that Korean female teachers are in demand by successful K males for several reasons ( was told this by K female PS teachers). Not unusual to see a Samsung engineer, ps teacher pairup. |
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Stout
Joined: 28 May 2011
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| Well you know, not all the ps teachers are going to be trophy material for a Korean rich guy, you have to account for some variability. And not all the NETs are going to be janitor material, either. So some stuff is bound to go down somewhere. |
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myenglishisno
Joined: 08 Mar 2011 Location: Geumchon
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| Stout wrote: |
| And not all the NETs are going to be janitor material, either. So some stuff is bound to go down somewhere. |
I didn't mean it to imply that we're of a low quality. In terms of the hierarchy, we're down at the very bottom. That's why most kids call their NETs 원어민 instead of 선생님 or 원어민 선생님 (one step above feral children). |
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sirius black
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| I've always been called teacher either in english or korean. I told them its okay to call me by my first name and some stil called me teacher. |
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myenglishisno
Joined: 08 Mar 2011 Location: Geumchon
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| sirius black wrote: |
| I've always been called teacher either in english or korean. I told them its okay to call me by my first name and some stil called me teacher. |
At the PS I worked at I was always called teacher in English and just 원어민 in Korean. I got the feeling that the kids were taught to call us 원어민 and I also got the feeling that the kids were told at some point that NETs aren't real teachers. Even GEPIK kept changing the acronym NET to stuff like 'Guest Native Speakers", "Guest Lecturers" and so forth. They're really careful about the teacher designation because, don't you know, you must have a year of teacher training and a degree to show for it in order to receive that title  |
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liveinkorea316
Joined: 20 Aug 2010 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Of course the children are taught to call foreign teachers Wonomin by the Korean faculty. It is the same as if a parent teaches their child to swear or not to - kids copy their elders in authority because they perceive that as the correct or appropriate way.
In terms of K-teachers marrying NETS, well you also have to remember that there are a large number of K-teachers in their 20's. That is when they are more likely to fall for their handsome young NET teacher. They might get married a few years later, but you gotta remember that K-women teachers graduate at about 24-25 years old and go into teaching positions. I know a couple of 25 and 26 year old teachers. It is quite possible they could marry a handsome NET if he came to their school and swept them off their feet.
Remember, if someone is specialising in teaching a foreign language they already have an interest in that culture and usually the people in it.
It is completely natural, and although it goes against social classes here, we all know that Korean social class structure is breaking down at a fairly quick rate - Women getting government jobs, performance-based pay, acceptance of foreign peoples... |
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maladict23
Joined: 17 May 2011
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Yup - the KH and KJ are pretty lame compared to the Japan Times, Hong Kong's South China Morning Post, the Bangkok Post and Thailand's The Nation, and Singapore/Kuala Lumpur's Strait Times. All of these papers are weighty both in size and in authority and influence.
And that editorial writer at the KH these days - a good argument could be made about whether she's representative of a leftist bent in the Korean media these days, or if she's a former radical student wingnut now enjoying a position of power. The KH is a waste of trees.
Except Cho Se-Hyun's Seoul Searcher. He's too good for that bunch. |
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cert43
Joined: 17 Jun 2010
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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I would never date a Korean guy again, but that doesn't mean white guys are off the hook either.
They are either raging alches or nerds.. |
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myenglishisno
Joined: 08 Mar 2011 Location: Geumchon
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| cert43 wrote: |
| (White guys) are either raging alches or nerds.. |
I'm neither! Oh wait, actually I'm pretty nerdy but not in a way that frightens people. |
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cert43
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, thats good...luckily the old boyfreind is inbetween so we don't have any worries there... |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010 Location: kOREA
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| cert43 wrote: |
I would never date a Korean guy again, but that doesn't mean white guys are off the hook either.
They are either raging alches or nerds.. |
There is always black teachers  |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| maladict23 wrote: |
Yup - the KH and KJ are pretty lame compared to the Japan Times, Hong Kong's South China Morning Post, the Bangkok Post and Thailand's The Nation, and Singapore/Kuala Lumpur's Strait Times. All of these papers are weighty both in size and in authority and influence.
And that editorial writer at the KH these days - a good argument could be made about whether she's representative of a leftist bent in the Korean media these days, or if she's a former radical student wingnut now enjoying a position of power. The KH is a waste of trees.
Except Cho Se-Hyun's Seoul Searcher. He's too good for that bunch. |
The Japan Times ain't nothing to brag about, either. |
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rainism
Joined: 13 Apr 2011
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| myenglishisno wrote: |
| Stout wrote: |
| And not all the NETs are going to be janitor material, either. So some stuff is bound to go down somewhere. |
I didn't mean it to imply that we're of a low quality. In terms of the hierarchy, we're down at the very bottom. That's why most kids call their NETs 원어민 instead of 선생님 or 원어민 선생님 (one step above feral children). |
actually my kids never call me wonnomin, even other Korean teachers do not EXCEPT when they're talking about me to someone else and need to communicate to the other party quickly who they are talking about.
my kids call me rainism... or sem (K shortening of the long word)
My co teachers when translating certain instructions will usually use both
wonnomin, seon-sang-nim and I've overheard others when talking about me say rainism seonsangnim.
I suspect that may occur with most after being at the same school for more than a year and incurring some respect/cachet. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| myenglishisno wrote: |
| sirius black wrote: |
| I've always been called teacher either in english or korean. I told them its okay to call me by my first name and some stil called me teacher. |
At the PS I worked at I was always called teacher in English and just 원어민 in Korean. I got the feeling that the kids were taught to call us 원어민 and I also got the feeling that the kids were told at some point that NETs aren't real teachers. Even GEPIK kept changing the acronym NET to stuff like 'Guest Native Speakers", "Guest Lecturers" and so forth. They're really careful about the teacher designation because, don't you know, you must have a year of teacher training and a degree to show for it in order to receive that title  |
Nope.
I'm always referred to as a teacher in English and Korean by both the kids and the teachers. Then again they know I can speak/understand enough Korean to call them on it should they refer to me as something else.
It also helps if one keeps up a professional demeanor and attitude. |
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