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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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 Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Gorf wrote: |
| The truth is that the job market in Korea is almost as good as it was 4 years ago. |
In terms of conditions, salary, and ease of getting a decent job? No way. I incidentally just spoke to a friend who is finishing her 4th year in Korea. She decided not to renew her current job because she doesn't like it and is looking for a new one. She told me decent jobs are so hard to find now she may leave the country. She told me the job market (at least for people looking in-country) is tighter/worse than it's even been. (I think she meant within the four years she has been in Korea.) So no, I disagree that the job market is improving dramatically.
Each time I see an ad for an international school in Korea it looks like a bad deal. The last ad for an "international school" I saw had long hours, short vacation time, and a salary of "1.9-2.1, depending on experience."
I talked to people who worked here five years ago who told me they pulled 3 million a month working three days a week.
Inflation is going up.
Working hours are going up.
The number of applicants for job positions is going up.
Salaries are stagnating (or going down). |
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FDNY
Joined: 27 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
| Salaries are stagnating (or going down). |
No way man. 3.2 for 4.5 Sweet and juicy. No CBC. No BS. No pastels or whatever they are called. Just lots of free time and greenbacks. +1 |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm ethnically Caucasian and not married to a Korean citizen. Can I do this job? @@ |
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FDNY
Joined: 27 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
| I'm ethnically Caucasian and not married to a Korean citizen. Can I do this job? @@ |
Nope, my company don't want the hassles of dealing with immigration. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| No way man. 3.2 for 4.5 Sweet and juicy. No CBC. No BS. No pastels or whatever they are called. Just lots of free time and greenbacks. +1 |
Where I work, management allocate half an hour's prep time for every hour taught, although a lot of teachers do more than this, especially when teaching young learners. Bearing in mind preparation time and the extra time people spend at all jobs, reading emails, chatting with staff and colleagues etc...it's really pretty much a full time job. If you did the thing properly that is. Having said that, it'd be pretty attractive for an unqualified E2 but I'm surprised anyone else would go for it. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| FDNY wrote: |
| World Traveler wrote: |
| Salaries are stagnating (or going down). |
No way man. 3.2 for 4.5 Sweet and juicy. No CBC. No BS. No pastels or whatever they are called. Just lots of free time and greenbacks. +1 |
That's a huge red flag. It's doubtful that they pay pension, national health, housing allowance, or severance, as those might be considered BS. |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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The job market depends on the area you want to work for one. Also, great jobs are sometimes a result of great networking. Some friends or friends of frends have a great job and pay and are leaving to go home or another city, that job oftentimes goes to someone they know or of a frend of someone they know.
My first job was great because a friend worked there. My closest friends changed jobs to schools where they had a friend that is working there or had worked there.
Schools that are paying a great salary and low working hours don't have to advertise. The teachers there are hooking up their friends if they need another teacher. |
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FDNY
Joined: 27 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| FDNY wrote: |
| World Traveler wrote: |
| Salaries are stagnating (or going down). |
No way man. 3.2 for 4.5 Sweet and juicy. No CBC. No BS. No pastels or whatever they are called. Just lots of free time and greenbacks. +1 |
That's a huge red flag. It's doubtful that they pay pension, national health, housing allowance, or severance, as those might be considered BS. |
Pension: No (Rip-off anyway)
National Health: No (Health is for suckers)
Housing: Yes (400,000 of the 3.2M is for housing)
Severence: Yes (just pocketed a cool 6.4M)
Meetings: Never (I've met my boss twice in 12 months)
BS: Only with the kids
Prep: Zero (rotating, static curriculum, pre-made plans)
Problems: too much $$$ and free time. |
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yesman
Joined: 15 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Pension: No (Rip-off anyway)
National Health: No (Health is for suckers)
Housing: Yes (400,000 of the 3.2M is for housing)
Severence: Yes (just pocketed a cool 6.4M)
Meetings: Never (I've met my boss twice in 12 months)
BS: Only with the kids
Prep: Zero (rotating, static curriculum, pre-made plans)
Problems: too much $$$ and free time. |
You got jokes! Still haven't found anyone, huh? |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Prep: Zero (rotating, static curriculum, pre-made plans)
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So you read, understand the plans and relate it to the material while you're actually in the class room in front of the students? |
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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:13 am Post subject: |
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Pension: No (Rip-off anyway)
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You are so full of it.
Most nationalities get their pensions back. And seeing how your employer pays 50% of it, you get double your money back.
I fail to see how that is a rip off.
I do see that your boss is trying to rip people off however. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:26 am Post subject: |
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| So really it's 2.8 without pension or health insurance? And we still haven't heard about airfare? |
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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:32 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| So really it's 2.8 without pension or health insurance? And we still haven't heard about airfare? |
He wants a f visa. In other words, someone in Korea presently.
Going by everything so far, I highly doubt airfare or payment in lieu of will be offered. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| BigBuds wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| So really it's 2.8 without pension or health insurance? And we still haven't heard about airfare? |
He wants a f visa. In other words, someone in Korea presently.
Going by everything so far, I highly doubt airfare or payment in lieu of will be offered. |
I realize that, but there are lots of F-visa holders who still want a ride home. After all is said and done this looks like a regular job paying 2.5, just less hours. Still pretty good, but nothing crazy. |
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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| BigBuds wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| So really it's 2.8 without pension or health insurance? And we still haven't heard about airfare? |
He wants a f visa. In other words, someone in Korea presently.
Going by everything so far, I highly doubt airfare or payment in lieu of will be offered. |
I realize that, but there are lots of F-visa holders who still want a ride home. After all is said and done this looks like a regular job paying 2.5, just less hours. Still pretty good, but nothing crazy. |
They don't want to pay medical or pension, both of which are legally required.
Do you honestly think they are going to want to pay for an airfare? |
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