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[ghostrider]

1) Carbohydrates should be avoided because they lead to high levels of the evil, fat storing hormone insulin.
Truth: High protein meals can also cause insulin spikes and the body has the ability to store fat even when insulin levels are low. Most people would have great difficulty losing weight on a daily diet of 5,000 calories of pure fat.
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

2) The total number of calories consumed does not matter. What matters is the total number of carbs consumed.
Truth: The laws of physics are not mysteriously suspended on a low carb diet. Take in more energy than you burn and you will gain weight. The Japanese have traditionally eaten a high carb diet for centuries and have had few problems with obesity.

3) Obesity is not caused by overeating.
Truth: This claim is based on cherry-picked research by Gary Taubes. James Krieger points out, �It is well established that overweight people underreport their food intake on average. In fact, there is a huge volume of literature on this�so huge that it is surprising that Taubes missed it all.�

4) Physical activity doesn�t help people lose weight. There has been an exercise explosion in America since the 1970s but Americans keep getting fatter.
Truth: This claim is also based on cherry-picked research by Taubes. Taubes narrowly focused on the increase in gym memberships and gym revenues. However, according to CDC data, the percentage of Americans participating in physical activity during their leisure time has actually gone down. Furthermore, �There is also data estimating the cost of mechanization (dishwashers, elevators, cars, etc.) to our daily energy expenditure. It is estimated that we expend an average of 111 calories per day less, which, if not compensated by lower food intake, would result in substantial weight gain over many years.�
http://weightology.net/?p=265

[oldtactics]

The success stories on Reddit's /r/keto beg to differ. Weight loss is different for everyone. If low carb works for someone, why discourage them?

[ghostrider]

[nero]

I was on a very low cal diet when I was younger - rice, veggies, I avoided ANY fat, I was afraid of protein (this was before the whole atkins thing) and i counted my calories like a fiend. My weight stayed the same. As soon as I switched to the same number of calories but changed the carbs to protein the weight dropped of. it was amazing. So, you can say what you want, but I am living proof.
As the above poster said - what does it matter to you? If it works for someone, let them do what they want.

[Louis VI]

[Louis VI]

[Kuros]

This is ghostrider's game. Strawmanning a wide, diverse group based on one person's views.

Most of these myths seem properly attributable, if at all, to Gary Taubes. Low carbers extend beyond Taubes disciples.

Anyway, enough of Taubes' views have been vindicated.

High-fat Diets won't harden Arteries

High Protein Diets: Fine from your Kidneys

No, Taubes is not perfect. But even more flawed was the saturated-fat-will-kill-you scaremongering that I grew up with.

[Gorf]

ghostrider, you're not even doing a good job trolling now. You gotta find a better segment to shoot for. Remember that most of the people on these forums are alcoholics, which bars them from being low carb. You gotta consider these things when you troll, dude.

[Louis VI]

[rainism]

[eamo]

[Louis VI]

Our bodies want energy and glucose is nature's energy source, from plants to mammals, glucose is the preferred form of fuel for bodies. Glucose is in sugar and is easily converted to from carbohydrates, especially the refined kinds borne of human manufactured foods. The body first uses whatever glucose is in the gut, then the about 1-day supply stores of glucogen in the liver and muscles. When those resources of glucose are gone, protein in the muscles can be converted to energy, as can the fat cells, the place where excess energy is stored via insulin in the blood. Weight gain and weight loss is a byproduct of blood processes and the liver is a key organ in managing energy conversion. The form of energy stored in fat cells is NOT glucose and thus not of the preferred kind. Lipids get bad press but are the essential form of stored energy. Getting the body to use lipid reserves instead of readily available glucose is the fundamental process by which low carb consumption results in weight loss. The key is metabolism, the conversion rate(s). Increase metabolism and weight loss is increased. Carbs are an enemy of this process. Why the hell convert fat to usable energy when the preferred form of energy is right there to be used? And why crap out all that great glucose when it is so easily used by the body? Carbs as sugars are eagerly absorbed in the GI tract. Calorie counts are misleading because some kinds of calories are absorbed more readily than others, and the rate at which they are used up instead of stored also varies based on what kinds of energy source it is (glucose vs. protein vs. dietary fats). So, for anyone looking at significant weight loss, metabolism and insulin are more important key words than calories or exercise. The biochemistry is actually quite interesting and if one reads the science and medicine lit and avoids the bloggers and health claimers, one sees more consensus than dispute about how the body works.

[Greyjoy]

[liveinkorea316]

[rainism]

if it takes more energy to covert protein than carbs into fuel, that makes the body work harder, use more energy, therefore = MORE weight loss.

personally speaking, carb suppression doesn't make me feel fuller and doesn't suppress my appetite. In fact, often the opposite. It's the carbs that make me feel full.

why do you think Koreans stuff themselves with rice? to feel full. White Rice has no nutritional value whatsoever.