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weso1
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 Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:49 pm Post subject: Ausi / Kiwi rivalry? |
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The world is filled with groups and countries that are similar enough to everyone else, yet between these two a fearsome feud lies beneath the surface. The Haffeilds and McCoys fought viciously and may have even been related to each other. But to everyone else, they were just a bunch of hillbillies.
SK and Japan have a deep rivalry those goes back centuries. And while at the highest levels of gov't and business, all is well and good and the two countries are considered partners and even "friends," in the general populations of both, there's a huge feeling of "us" and "them." I would note that many would consider Korea's distrust or fear of Japanese to be somewhat legitimate.
America and Canada is probably the world's favorite "sibling" rivalry. It's the classic "big brother/little brother" match up. Of course there is no real hate between the two. It very much reminds me of the relationship between myself and my own younger brother. Same house. Same family. Of course we love each other, but that doesn't mean we always have to "like" each other. And while every now and then you meet a fired up Canuck with a inferiority complex that bemoans every little thing about the US and grows ever more patriotic over talk of maple syrup, beavers, and hockey - he does not represent the country as a whole. Just the same as that lone Yank that thinks Canada is just a pinko commie liberal paradise for pot smoking hippies.
So, this got me curious as to how the Ausies and the Kiwis see each other. I assume, form my limited understanding of the region, it is more along the lines of the American/Canadian sibling rivalry rather than the SK/Japan hatred for each other. But, I admit, I don't know very much about the history of South Pacific political relations (damn you American public education system!)
So, how better to find out than to ask the source? So Kiwis and Ausies, what's your view about how your two peoples and countries feel about each other? What are the stereotypes you hear growing up? What things do you see as the biggest differences? What draws you together? Is the Ausie/Kiwi fight something known throughout your region of the world or just does it not play a factor in the social relationships between each other? |
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DaHu
Joined: 09 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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This has nothing to do with Korea and doesn't need to be in General Discussion forum about Korea.
And no, I don't care about either of your two groups. So there. |
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weso1
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| DaHu wrote: |
This has nothing to do with Korea and doesn't need to be in General Discussion forum about Korea.
And no, I don't care about either of your two groups. So there. |
Wow. Who peed in your cheerios today? |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom
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The English vs. the Scottish, heck the British vs. the Irish, the French vs. the Germans, the Finns vs. the Swedes, etc.
Rival neighbours. |
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Koreadays
Joined: 20 May 2008
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:55 am Post subject: |
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my favorite.
USA vs The rest of the world!
bring it !!!  |
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Tongans vs. Samoans.
Mexicans vs. Salvadoreans and Hondurans. |
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isisaredead
Joined: 18 May 2010
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:25 am Post subject: Re: Ausi / Kiwi rivalry? |
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| weso1 wrote: |
The world is filled with groups and countries that are similar enough to everyone else, yet between these two a fearsome feud lies beneath the surface. The Haffeilds and McCoys fought viciously and may have even been related to each other. But to everyone else, they were just a bunch of hillbillies.
SK and Japan have a deep rivalry those goes back centuries. And while at the highest levels of gov't and business, all is well and good and the two countries are considered partners and even "friends," in the general populations of both, there's a huge feeling of "us" and "them." I would note that many would consider Korea's distrust or fear of Japanese to be somewhat legitimate.
America and Canada is probably the world's favorite "sibling" rivalry. It's the classic "big brother/little brother" match up. Of course there is no real hate between the two. It very much reminds me of the relationship between myself and my own younger brother. Same house. Same family. Of course we love each other, but that doesn't mean we always have to "like" each other. And while every now and then you meet a fired up Canuck with a inferiority complex that bemoans every little thing about the US and grows ever more patriotic over talk of maple syrup, beavers, and hockey - he does not represent the country as a whole. Just the same as that lone Yank that thinks Canada is just a pinko commie liberal paradise for pot smoking hippies.
So, this got me curious as to how the Ausies and the Kiwis see each other. I assume, form my limited understanding of the region, it is more along the lines of the American/Canadian sibling rivalry rather than the SK/Japan hatred for each other. But, I admit, I don't know very much about the history of South Pacific political relations (damn you American public education system!)
So, how better to find out than to ask the source? So Kiwis and Ausies, what's your view about how your two peoples and countries feel about each other? What are the stereotypes you hear growing up? What things do you see as the biggest differences? What draws you together? Is the Ausie/Kiwi fight something known throughout your region of the world or just does it not play a factor in the social relationships between each other? |
as an australian, i have absolutely no problem saying this:
you're an idiot. |
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weso1
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:49 am Post subject: Re: Ausi / Kiwi rivalry? |
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| isisaredead wrote: |
| weso1 wrote: |
The world is filled with groups and countries that are similar enough to everyone else, yet between these two a fearsome feud lies beneath the surface. The Haffeilds and McCoys fought viciously and may have even been related to each other. But to everyone else, they were just a bunch of hillbillies.
SK and Japan have a deep rivalry those goes back centuries. And while at the highest levels of gov't and business, all is well and good and the two countries are considered partners and even "friends," in the general populations of both, there's a huge feeling of "us" and "them." I would note that many would consider Korea's distrust or fear of Japanese to be somewhat legitimate.
America and Canada is probably the world's favorite "sibling" rivalry. It's the classic "big brother/little brother" match up. Of course there is no real hate between the two. It very much reminds me of the relationship between myself and my own younger brother. Same house. Same family. Of course we love each other, but that doesn't mean we always have to "like" each other. And while every now and then you meet a fired up Canuck with a inferiority complex that bemoans every little thing about the US and grows ever more patriotic over talk of maple syrup, beavers, and hockey - he does not represent the country as a whole. Just the same as that lone Yank that thinks Canada is just a pinko commie liberal paradise for pot smoking hippies.
So, this got me curious as to how the Ausies and the Kiwis see each other. I assume, form my limited understanding of the region, it is more along the lines of the American/Canadian sibling rivalry rather than the SK/Japan hatred for each other. But, I admit, I don't know very much about the history of South Pacific political relations (damn you American public education system!)
So, how better to find out than to ask the source? So Kiwis and Ausies, what's your view about how your two peoples and countries feel about each other? What are the stereotypes you hear growing up? What things do you see as the biggest differences? What draws you together? Is the Ausie/Kiwi fight something known throughout your region of the world or just does it not play a factor in the social relationships between each other? |
as an australian, i have absolutely no problem saying this:
you're an idiot. |
At least I know how to use capitalization. |
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alice_w
Joined: 10 Aug 2011
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In my experience, New Zealanders expell a lot of energy on actively hating Austalians, but Australians don't really think about New Zealanders. To be honest, it's really just NZ men that have the issue, and this is probably due to the Wallabies/All Blacks rivalry. I guess it's much like the Canada/USA relationship.
Take this, for example: At a supermarket in State College, Pennsylvania, I heard a NZ accent behind me at the check out. I turned around and said, "Is that a New Zealand accent I hear?"
The man, mid 40s, I would guess, said, "Yes it is. Good spotting."
"I'm Australian," I said, excited to hear a friendly accent so far from home.
"Sorry about that," this guys says. "Somebody has to be." Jack ass.
I have encountered this kind of reaction from NZ men all over the world. NZ women are always friendly enough. But I'd much rather just run into an Aussie. |
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jinks
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Ha ha - I'm a kiwi and I like Aussies, especially the Melbourne types. I'm also from Wellington and I hate that stupid Wellington/Auckland rivalry (which I admit is worse from the Wellington side). |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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lawyertood
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul, Incheon and the World--working undercover for the MOJ
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alice_w
Joined: 10 Aug 2011
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aussieb
Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Location: Brisbane,Australia
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Aussies don't discriminate ... we take the pi$$ out of everyone .. Canuks, Yanks, Poms .. the lot. It is, however more convenient for us to bag the K1w1's because most of them now live in Australia. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:11 am Post subject: |
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| alice_w wrote: |
In my experience, New Zealanders expell a lot of energy on actively hating Austalians, but Australians don't really think about New Zealanders. To be honest, it's really just NZ men that have the issue, and this is probably due to the Wallabies/All Blacks rivalry. I guess it's much like the Canada/USA relationship.
Take this, for example: At a supermarket in State College, Pennsylvania, I heard a NZ accent behind me at the check out. I turned around and said, "Is that a New Zealand accent I hear?"
The man, mid 40s, I would guess, said, "Yes it is. Good spotting."
"I'm Australian," I said, excited to hear a friendly accent so far from home.
"Sorry about that," this guys says. "Somebody has to be." Jack ass.
I have encountered this kind of reaction from NZ men all over the world. NZ women are always friendly enough. But I'd much rather just run into an Aussie. |
I think he was just messin'
I do the same thing when I meet Eastern Canadians. |
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