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legal to rescind a contract if documents aren't early enough
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:31 pm    Post subject: Re: ok Reply with quote

cburst wrote:
Noted. Back to my previous question: is it possible to go to d.c., get my previously mailed documents, and then submit them in person?


If you had the documents in hand, and ran them to each of the places they needed to go, you could get your paperwork processed MUCH quicker -- once I had my CBC back, I got it notarized and apostilled in the same day while I was in the US. I got my visa in 24 hours -- dropped my passport off in Chicago one day, picked it up by noon the next day (that time frame may not still apply, and it was not my first visa to Korea).

I do not think, however, that you will be ABLE to get your paperwork back in order to hand-carry it -- the folks that have received it in the mail will most likely NOT be willing to just hand you your stuff back...and that is even assuming that they COULD find your stuff when you happened to show up at their offices....

Sorry for the bad news. Also, while I understand your annoyance and displeasure at finding out a job you thought you had may have fallen through, as Ttom said, if you do not have YOUR paperwork ready by the agreed-upon start date, that is on YOU, not your employer. However, if your employer ditches you BEFORE your agreed-upon start date, then yeah, you would have every right to be outraged....
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Pinehurst



Joined: 14 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone on this forum was able to go to DC (State Department) and retrieve their CRC and get the Apostille. Since you used FedEX it should work. USPS gets sent to someplace in Ohio, I think for several weeks, before it gets sent to DC though. It will still take a week to get your number from Kimmi (Korean Imigration) then you will have to get your passport stamped at the US Consulate which can take another several days. You will have to see if the expense is worth all the risks.
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cburst



Joined: 12 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:27 pm    Post subject: so... Reply with quote

1. I have been to DC and back. I successfully retrieved the documents and then turned around and Fedex'd them to Korea. It appears that I still have a job.

2. Time really was of the essence here *ahem*Koreatimes*ahem.* If I had been informed of this deadline just minutes earlier my driving time would have been reduced by 12 HOURS and my gas costs by 80 USD, because I was traveling away from DC at the time it was received. I could have scheduled a leisurely and pleasant trip to DC and not a 28 hour driving endurance debacle. (Kindly relegate your smug sanctimony to a subject where it bears the slightest shred of rhetorical utility.)
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I had been informed of this deadline just minutes earlier my driving time would have been reduced by 12 HOURS and my gas costs by 80 USD, because I was traveling away from DC at the time it was received.


I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. How does knowing deadlines change your performance on the road? You are sounding more like a bratty teen who isn't getting their way. Time to grow up, get the documents, and learn to live in the real world KID.

I don't care if you lost 12 hours. I don't care that you spent 80 USD on gas. Everyone is playing by the same rules, and one rule you are having a hard time accepting is that YOU MUST GET YOUR DOCUMENTS IN ON TIME. No parental figure is going to look after you from cradle to grave, and no recruiter is going to look after you from the time you email them to the time you bitch and moan because the hagwon won't pay overtime for 2 classes.

Do this on your own.
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cburst



Joined: 12 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, let me break this down for you. Take out a map of the US. My parents live in Cleveland and my brother lives in Chicago. I got the email in question while on a bus from Cleveland to Chicago. Upon arrival in Chicago, I basically turned right around and drove to Washington DC.

Length of drive from Chicago to DC: 14 hours
Length of drive from Cleveland to DC: 8 hours

If I had known about this extremely important deadline before I departed Cleveland, I would not have taken a bus for six hours in the opposite direction. Are we clear?
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for your latte inconvenience, this is how it is done in Korea. GET YOUR DOCUMENTS ON TIME.
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tardisrider



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not even a matter of "get your documents on time." It's a matter of "get your documents done now."

It sounds like the OP was just trying to put off everything until the last minute, and then suddenly realized that the last moment was sooner than expected. The moral of the story is, don't wait or put off things like getting your visa or cbc or whatever. If it's something you're going to have to do, do it now and you won't need to hustle at the last minute when something happens.

Nothing wrong with what the school did.
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cburst



Joined: 12 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

get everything done at the last minute? my contract doesn't start for a MONTH. my employer wanted all the documents a MONTH EARLY.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cburst wrote:
get everything done at the last minute? my contract doesn't start for a MONTH. my employer wanted all the documents a MONTH EARLY.



But, they are not really a month early.

First, you said, in your first post, that training starts on Sept 19. So, you should catch a flight to Korea by the 17th of September - so, you've got 3 weeks to finish everything and catch a plane.

You mailed your documents today - the 26th of August in Korea. They should arrive early next week - Monday or Tuesday (cross your fingers).

Your employer will have to file your documents and his with Immigration late next week - Aug 31 or Sept 1st, maybe.

Your visa issuance number should be ready (hopefully) by the end of the following week - hopefully sooner, maybe later - Immigration can take a few days or up to two weeks. (There can also be delays for various reasons.)

Then, when you have your visa issuance number, you have to go to a Korean consulate or the DC embassy for your interview and to get your visa. But, there are two upcoming holidays - Sept 12 and 13 - the Chuseok holidays when they will be closed. They don't do these things every day, they have limited hours, and you need to make an appointment.

If your visa number comes early, maybe you can go to the consulate by the 9th. Not likely. So, you will likely be trying to squeeze in your appointment in a 3 day week. You have to have your interview, leave your passport to get your visa, pick up your visa, and then have time to book and catch a flight by the 17th to be here for training on the 19th.

There may be enough time, but your time is very tight.

Your documents might be on time to do all this, but they are not early.

Good luck. You could just make it.
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cburst



Joined: 12 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's really a breath of fresh air to read an informative and well written post. thanks.
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