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dartimos



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:33 am    Post subject: Work demanding I give blood... again... Reply with quote

My job just required that I give blood again. I have already given blood for the health check. Am I required to do this?

Thanks ^^
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:37 am    Post subject: Re: Work demanding I give blood... again... Reply with quote

dartimos wrote:
My job just required that I give blood again. I have already given blood for the health check. Am I required to do this?

Thanks ^^


You are NOT "giving blood"; a charitable act and, in Korea, foreigners CAN'T give blood (with darn few exceptions).

No, you are not required to submit to another blood test.
No, they are NOT required to keep you employed.

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dartimos



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what I've come up with as well.
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dartimos



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just told this is a manditory check by the government for salary people. Has anyone heard of any blood test needed by any organization other than the blood test initially given? I was told that if I didn't do this by the end of the year, and was caught, I would be fined.
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't sound like a big deal, but I would ask before anyone sticks a needle in you exactly what they are testing for. Have them write it out, English or Korean.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: Work demanding I give blood... again... Reply with quote

dartimos wrote:
My job just required that I give blood again. I have already given blood for the health check. Am I required to do this?

Thanks ^^



You have given us, and you probably have been given by your employer, little information to go on.

However, I will speculate.

When you come to Korea, you have to have a medical exam and give blood to meet your E2 visa requirements. This you seem to have done.

Later, on some kind of rotating basis, all enrollees in the National Health Care system have to have a medical exam - and another blood test is required. It could be this.

It's also possible there were some problems with your initial health test and they want a new blood test - although this would come right after the first exam and they should be able to explain it.

Either of these two additional exams would be mandatory government exams. But, it could be something else.

You'll have to ask your employer why, and hope they can or will explain.
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buster brown



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this is the NHIC health screening, you are not "required" to give blood.

I've had the same health check 3 times while working in Korea. Each time, I tell the nurse that I have a fear of needles (in Korean, of course) and I won't be giving blood. They wave me to the next set of tests and everything is okay. All of the other tests are non-invasive so I do those, but I detest having blood drawn...even in my home country.
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KingMomo



Joined: 25 Aug 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it true that you don't get your health care
and health care certificate from NHIC until you
give the initial health screening test?
Blood, urine, etc.?

Not insured through them until then, correct?

Also, Buster. What would they do to replace the
testing of blood? Methods? I'm ignorant.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KingMomo wrote:
Is it true that you don't get your health care
and health care certificate from NHIC until you
give the initial health screening test?
Blood, urine, etc.?

Not insured through them until then, correct?

Also, Buster. What would they do to replace the
testing of blood? Methods? I'm ignorant.


Confusing...

You can't get your NHIC enrollment (or card) until you have your ARC (and this occurs after you have your immigration medical)

but if you have your ARC you are legally entitled to be enrolled (there is no exclusion or exemption like with US companies).

For the bi-annual medicals offered by the NHIC if you don't want the blood tests then they just move on. The testing is a health and wellness check and we all know that weigooks are invulnerable and don't need checks of this sort.

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KingMomo



Joined: 25 Aug 2011
Location: Here and there

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it true that you don't get your health care insurance
and health care certificate from NHIC until you
give the initial health screening test?
Blood, urine, etc.?

Not insured through them until then, correct?

Also, Buster. What would they do to replace the
testing of blood? Methods? I'm ignorant.
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Sorry Tom. Insurance was the operative word.
I actually just got my ARC. They didn't ask for
my immi medical results even though I got it
4 days before I went to immi for my ARC.
I also hate needles, but let them draw blood anyways.

I should expect my NHIC enrollment card soon, yes?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KingMomo wrote:
Is it true that you don't get your health care insurance
and health care certificate from NHIC until you
give the initial health screening test?
Blood, urine, etc.?

Not insured through them until then, correct?

Also, Buster. What would they do to replace the
testing of blood? Methods? I'm ignorant.
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Sorry Tom. Insurance was the operative word.
I actually just got my ARC. They didn't ask for
my immi medical results even though I got it
4 days before I went to immi for my ARC.
I also hate needles, but let them draw blood anyways.

I should expect my NHIC enrollment card soon, yes?


IF your employer is on the up-and-up you should get your NHIC booklet within about 2-3 weeks of getting your ARC.

IF you don't have it within that time frame and you are working at a hagwan you can pretty much be assured that you won't be getting it (you are registered as a "subcontractor" rather than an employee and won't be enrolled (as required by law for employees) in NHIC or NPS (they go together).

If you are at a PS and don't have it by then you should bug the admin lady in your school (she is slow getting the paperwork done).

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DaHu



Joined: 09 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the OP is on a E2 due to poor English skills and his post about it being mandatory "by the government for salary people".
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaHu wrote:
I don't think the OP is on a E2 due to poor English skills and his post about it being mandatory "by the government for salary people".


As long as s/he is on a residential visa (D,E,F) and legally entitled to work (permitted activity for his status of sojourn) it doesn't matter.

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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Work demanding I give blood... again... Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
dartimos wrote:
My job just required that I give blood again. I have already given blood for the health check. Am I required to do this?

Thanks ^^


You are NOT "giving blood"; a charitable act and, in Korea, foreigners CAN'T give blood (with darn few exceptions).

No, you are not required to submit to another blood test.
No, they are NOT required to keep you employed.

.


I gave blood and plenty of it.

The problem is that if you visited countries with certain diseases, you are not allowed to donate.

Also, most services do not speak English, and they wouldn't know how to communicate in case of problems.
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jurassic82



Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Location: Somewhere!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had to do this as well. This is not the same as your health check that you had to do for your VISA. I think the only difference is that they don't check for HIV/AIDS and Drugs. I know it sucks but it really isn't worth throwing a big fuss over. Go and do it. I didn't have to pay for mine and I got to go during work hours which was nice. Shocked
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